This blog is an arena in which to practice your debate skills. Please read EACH blog carefully before answering.
Entry for September 21, 2008
For each of the first four blogs, you will compose a brief argument in response to a statement made by a famous writer. In order to have a strong response you must spend a significant amount of time analyzing the argument within the statement: What is the issue at hand? What is the writer's claim/assertion related to the issue? What evidence does the writer offer in support of the claim/assertion?



Your written response should be approximately 600 words, and limited to one typed page, single spaced. Each response will be evaluated acccording to the following criteria:



1. Provide a clear explanation of the write's assertion, contextualizing the issue at hand for readers, explaining to them briefly why educated, informed citizens ought to read on...in other words what is the author saying and why should anyone care.



2. Support or defend your positon on the issue implied by the writer's assertion.

Hint: Remember what we've learned in class. Think about topic sentences, and concrete details, and theme. These are the tools you need to build good essays, use them!



Note its complexity (nuances) and forge connections between your positon and that of the writer. Resist the immature tempation of oversimplification!


Provide specific evidence from personal observaton, experience, and /or reading to support your position.


Provide a conclusion that does not nearly summarize, but rather addresses the "so what?" issue: How should educated, informed citizens continue to thing about the issue at hand? How will it continue to influence readers' lives?


The quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.


~Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
2008-09-21 23:15:38 GMT
Comments (97 total)
Author:Anonymous
Mrs. Broussard,

I can't seem to find the connection to the information of Bertrand Russel. Please help me!!!!!!!!!!! I need this grade.

Fredrick Tyler

P.S. This is not my posting the blog. I couldn't get a hold of your e-mail address so i thought that I would post my plea for help this way. Call me at (254) 539-9891 or tell me in class which ever one comes first. Thanks!!!!!!!
--Fredrick Tyler
2008-09-23 00:57:36 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is trying to voice that education is the key to intelligence and the freedom of thought. In other words, education is parallel to mostly everything we do in life. Without education, you wouldn't be much of anything because there is a little chance that people with no education becomes a somebody. Bertrand Russell is also trying to say that no matter what you think or do, there is always a big or small portion of education included in it.
The quote that Bertrand Russell wrote is something that I could agree with because life is full of many things that include education. For example, modeling, many people say that you don’t have to have education to become a model. That’s not entirely true. Models actually use education almost every second of their career. “Like what?” is something that you might be asking. Well, by having education it reflects how you present yourself to others and societies by letting them know that you are a resemblance of what any person can dream of.
People sometimes don’t understand the conditions of what education can do for us. Some people see education as a waste of time when they’re the ones who regret it later. Education can provide the things you need, don’t need, and the things that you want. That’s why it is a great impact in everyone in the world. Just ask yourself what you want to be. It can be anything you want but education is included in it every time. Even the lowest paying careers and jobs can included a huge portion of education and it can even be working in a restaurant.
Education often affects people by opening them up to new ideas, and also broadening their thinking. Sometimes education can change what you believe, if you find new truth and need to fit it into your worldview. As long as a person is careful to actually examine the information that is presented, and not just blindly accept anything from anything, education usually improves lives and minds and offers us more opportunities and possibilities. I mean we all learn every day. If we didn’t learn then we would all be incapable of doing a lot of things.
Although, overall access to basic education has been on the rise in many developing countries, the poor are still less likely to have access to education. In many countries, most children from the poorest households have no schooling. That’s why the people who can have education should take advantage of it. It’s not fair that the poorest wants their education more than anything when higher class people don’t even care about it.
Education can take you places that you couldn’t even imagine. The people who have the advantage, but don’t use, it will later in life realize what they have done to themselves. Life doesn’t have to be hard and you don’t make it that way. It can be easy, and it’s full of surprises. That’s why education is really important to everybody in the world and it doesn’t matter where you’re from or who you are.
Back in the day (1900s), women had no rights. So therefore, many women didn’t have any education. Men had the highest education because women had other roles to play in life like cooking, cleaning, and other things to keep men happy. But later in the years (1930s-1950s), women took advantage of that. So now, if you compare men and women’s education together, women have a higher literacy rate. What I’m trying to say is that the people that can’t have their education CAN if they want it that bad. And you can get it just by education itself. That’s how important education is to us.

--Ingrid Toro
<mailto:star1cutie@yahoo.com>
2008-09-28 20:34:14 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree with Bertrand Russell that we are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought. Some teachers are making education too easy for some students and too hard for other students. Some teachers are telling students the answers when they ask for help instead of making the student do their work. Some teachers are not giving every student the same amount of attention which made it hard for the students who are lacking. In middle school some of my teachers had their favorite when it came to students. I recalled one teacher would hardly ever help this student. The student was a friend of mine so it discouraged him and affected his learning. I tried to encourage him but it was hard so I had to tell. Some teachers let students control the classroom and it makes it hard for students who want to learn concentrate.

Another obstacle would be textbooks are becoming less used in schools. Students are being introduced to computers and other electronics instruments in schools. This is bad for the students because not all students have the privilege of a computer at home so students are not able to do their homework, which is causing students to fail. The other problem is that some teachers are not computer smart. The teacher has to go and get help from another teacher and that takes away from the classroom and also stops the students from learning what they are supposed to learn.

One of the most disturbing obstacles is few teachers. There are fewer teachers in some schools than in other schools. This causes a problem because classrooms are overcrowded and students are having a hard time learning. Overcrowded schools make it difficulty for teachers to help a lot of the students. Some teacher would not have a lot of time to spend with all of the students who really need help. The students would have to find another way to get help or does not pass. Some students do not learn what they need to learn and that hurt the students’ grade at report card time. The teacher might get fired because of the student not learning or the school can close because of low scores. On the news one night I saw a city was trying to close one of their schools because of low test scores. Also in crowded schools some teachers teach according to their pay. That means that the teacher will teach good if the pay is good. Or the teacher will not teach so well because the pay does not equal out to the stress they feel when teaching a group of students that are always back talking and not listening to what the teacher is saying.I think that the TAKS test is the main thing that worries me about the student’s education being an obstacle for graduating because the student can do well through out the school year by having an A plus but when the student have to take the TAKS test and do not pass the test. The student now do not get a chance to graduate with his class and have to keep taking the TAKS test until he passes in order for him to get his diploma. Now does that mean the student is dumb or does not understand the area that was not passed? No, that does not. It could mean that the student was nervous or the student has problems taking big tests. I think that the students should not have to take the TAKS test. One reason being is that students are dropping out of school because they are nervous about not passing the TAKS test. I believe that if the students did not have to take a test there would be more students graduating and less students dropping out of school. Parents send their children to school to get a good education. Some teachers are not helping our education but hurting it. An education is supposed to better us but now an education makes some of us lazy and really not wanting to learn. Yes, most students pass and graduates but what is the purpose of passing or graduating if you didn’t understand what you have learned.

--Donald Dickenson
2008-09-29 23:20:17 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is trying to say that education is the key of life and freedom of speech and thought.Basically he is trying to say, that education is needed for a lot of things we do in everyday life.If you don't have education there is not a lot of stuff you can do without it and you will not be able to do what you dreamed of doing with your life.Also what Bertrand Russell is trying to say,is that whatever you want to do in life eduction is always a big part of it.

I agree with Bertrand Russell, because life has a lot of things that having an education would help you on. A lot of teenagers and young adults think that you don't need education to do certain things like football, basketball.Some people might not think you need an education to play football or basketball, but the truth is you do need an education someone could end up stealing your money or you wouldn't have anything else to fall back on when your career is over.

Sometimes we don't really know what education could really do for us in the future.Sometimes we think we don't need it , and that we can get by without it but honestly later on in life wwe will need a good education.Education can provide alot of things we will need, and somethings we won't need. Thats why education is a good thing for everyone in the world should have.

Even though education is spreading around the world their is still countries that don't let women or children get an education.this is why i think we should be thankful that we are allowed to go to school, and choosse what we want to do with our lives.Their are people that wish they could go to school, and become what they want to become, and can't.Education can help you do anything you but your mind to if you try hard enough, and reaaly want to better your life.

We should be happy that we have a chance to go to school to better ourselves, because back in the old days like around the early {1900's) alot of places didn allow children or women or blacks to go to school, and get an education.Now in most places women,children, and blacks can go to school and get an education.The point im trying to make is that education is a big part of life, and without it you won't make it any where in life. SO take advantage of it now while you CAN instead of throwing it all away.
--~^*{B}RITTANY {F}AULKS*^~ 1st pd
2008-09-30 00:24:36 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I think Bertrand Russell is saying that the school is not a place for sufficate learning.Simply because it tells the sutdents(us)what they "think" we should learn.While hindering us from learn anything eles. That the school system doesn't want us learning anything other then what they

demable to teach.Not only is this a mistake but also a blessing.





This type of selective learning puts a guard around what our young minds as high schoolers may learn.Although some of the students may argue that they are miture enough to learn about more adult things it is clear that they will aprotoch the knowlodeg with simply mindedness.





I believe that stoping use from exploring outside knowlodeg is not exceptable,but waiting untill we are fully ready to understand that information is a smart move.
A proper place for this king of learning would be college.Even though I am sure many of my classmates will not make it that there.This shows that they are not ready to learn things other then the basics of leraning.

jasmine white period 4 yeah I finished.
2008-09-30 01:53:58 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell’s quote,’’ We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought,’ explains that education doesn’t give us true education, and the only way to have intelligence is to experience it own your own. Also that education changes our morals, values, and our way of life. I agree with Bertrand Russell because the life of a typical student is spent studying, attending class, and associating with peers. Students become stress from work and tests which causes approximately one-third of all children and fifty percent of minorities, in public high school to drop out of high school. That’s why teachers should allow you to express your opinion and not just give you facts from textbooks. Even though education may change your morals, some education is necessary to make reasonable decisions. Although some famous people lacked education, their hard work, self-motivation, natural talent, and perseverance helped them to succeed in life.

Thomas Edison was born on February 11, 1847 in Milan, Ohio. Edison started school late because of his childhood illness. Once he started school his mind often wandered and his teacher Alexander Crawford often called him ‘’addled’’. He was kicked out of school three months after starting. Edison was then home schooled by his mother, who was previously a teacher in Canada. She encouraged and taught him to read and experiment. In 1868 Thomas received his first patent at twenty- one years old from the electric voice recorder. From then on he had over one-thousand patents in his name, including the electric light bulb, phonograph, and motion picture camera. He became a self-made multimillionaire and won a Congressional gold medal. Also Jimmie's father, station agent J.U. Mackenzie of Mount Clemens, Michigan, took Edison as an apprentice and trained him as a telegraph operator. Edison's deafness helped him as it blocked out noises and prevented Edison from hearing the telegrapher sitting next to him.

Harland Sanders was born on a farm in Henryville, Indiana on September 9, 1890. His parents, Wilbert Sanders, a butcher, and Margaret Ann Dunleavy, a homemaker, also had two younger children. Sanders' father died when he was five, so his mother took a job peeling tomatoes in a canning factory and earned extra money by sewing at night. Sanders had to take care of his siblings, learning how to cook so he could feed them. He held his first job at the age of ten, working on a nearby farm. Because the family was so poor, Sanders left school after sixth grade so he could work full time. His mother, desperate to improve the financial situation of her family, married a produce farmer and moved the family to suburban Indianapolis when Sanders was 12. After dropping out of elementary school, Sanders worked many jobs, including firefighter, steamboat driver, and insurance salesman. He later earned a law degree from a correspondence school. Sanders' cooking and business experience helped him make millions as the founder of Kentucky Fried Chicken (now KFC).

Although he was named Time magazine's "Man of the Century," Albert Einstein was not an "Einstein" in school. The Nobel Prize-winning scientist was famous for his theory of relativity and contributions to quantum theory and statistical mechanics, dropped out of high school at age 15. Deciding to continue his education a year later, Einstein took the entrance exam to the prestigious Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, but failed. He returned to high school, got his diploma, and then passed the university's entrance exam on his second attempt.

Some education is important, but it can keep you from using your creativity and allowing you to think for yourself. The famous people I mentioned didn’t have a lot of education. However they were able to accomplish many things, and obtain goals.



--Justina McFadden, 1st period
2008-09-30 22:47:00 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell’s quote has meaning, in which I fully agree on. The quote say’s: We are faced with the fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and to the freedom of thought. What the quote is saying is that instead of helping the intelligence of children, of any one for that matter , it is a road block for the freedom of choice and, in fact, decreasing the intelligence of the certain person. This is what I think of the quote along with what he might have been thinking.

Before a test, what do you do? Well it’s kind of obvious, you study! The question is what do you study exactly? You study the answers of course. That’s the problem, right there. Maybe there is only one way to do things, and maybe there is one way to answer things but, the one thing they always leave out is why. Why do you do it this way? Why is it that answer? They may teach how to do it in class or why it is the why it is but is never brought upon tests. Then what if there is more than one answer? Than what do you do? Are the teachers just going to count all of them wrong except for the answer they think is right? All the teacher does is pound the so-in-so “right” answer into their precious little minds so they think there is only one way to do something or only one reason. Over time of the repetition of the pounding of only one way finally gets to him and the only thing he can do is reliy on information that other people think. This gets rid of the person’s freedom of the mind or their creativity. Just think of it most of the geniuses haven’t been the best at school and yet you see them making the future of mankind for example, Thomas Edison. He was a down cast in school and yet he invented the light bulb. He was spared of the schools cruel system and did wonders for the entire world.

Even though the mankind has this deadly parasite called “school” there is light in the dark abyss. There are teachers within the stronghold reviving all those who have lost the ability to think freely. There ars teachers like my own teacher Mrs. Brussard who will continue the fight for the mind.

--Damien Missel
<mailto:dpmissel@msn.com>
2008-10-01 00:04:49 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Russell’s quote, he expresses his strong belief that education takes away from freedom of thought and true intelligence. I coincide with what he is saying. In my eyes, true intelligence comes when you’re able to understand the “correct answer” of your discussion, while knowing it‘s okay to express your thoughts. As students, we get so caught up in perfection rather than realizing, “okay, this may be the text book answer, but I still have the right to think this.” Standardized tests are a perfect example of education taking away from our freedom of thought. When the time of year comes for TAKS tests, an extreme amount of stress is put on the students. We are told to pass this test or be retained, who wouldn’t get stressed out about that? It seems as though teachers forget we have a right to express ourselves and our opinions when it comes down to “learning”. Teachers should allow you to express your opinions, but on the other hand, they should still familiarize their students with the text book answer. Many students aren’t pushed to their full potential because they tend to feel they have no say in the education they’re receiving. When we are allowed to speak out and voice our thoughts without being told we‘re wrong, students will begin to appreciate and cherish their right to education. As citizens of the U.S. we ought to want as many COLLEGE graduates as possible. In order to get to that college level, we must make it through high school. Not only is education one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought, it is slowly taking away from teachers having their own thoughts. Teachers feel the need to express the importance of an education, when they’re so attached to what is correct according to the text book. They have what are called “push pull factors”. Teachers want the best for their students, but they may not know how to show that they honestly have our best interest at heart. Everyone should want an education, by getting your degree and becoming a teacher you are able to “pull” people into your classrooms. Teachers also have the ability to “push” them away. No one wants to be in a class with individuals who don’t respect the opinions of others. Education has become an issue and it seems as though no one recognizes it. Bertrand Russell received his education and in his 98 years of living, he noticed this issue. If Russell was able to realize this, why is it that U.S. citizens today don’t realize the threat education holds on some of us. The effects of education is a positive thing but its seems like its negatively changing the lives of students. On the other hand, if you are secure in who you are, you already know your right to an opinion. We do not have to blend in to fit in. It’s important to know it’s okay to be different and not agree on everything said in one of your discussions. If you do agree on everything said in a discussion, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re wrong, it just means you happen to agree with what is about that topic. Russell made a great point in his quote, and this blog entry should encourage citizens to speak up, voice their opinions, and be heard!

Thank you!
-Alexis Harris
3rd period
--Alexis Harris
2008-10-01 01:03:59 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell's quote " We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought ", he is trying to voice that earning an education may be harder then what it seems and learning things about our life may not always come as easy as what we think. Education is always holding us people back from higher standards because without an education we cannot learn, and without learning we get nowhere in life. If people are not able to learn or are just to lazy and don't care for an education, those are the people that cannot accomplish their dreams in life.
I agree with Bertrand Russell's quote because everything in life requires some kind of education, whether it's a small job or a huge career. For example, a phsyciatrist has to have an excellent education. He/she has to know how they are suppose to talk to their patient, they can't just start yelling at them because they have a pathetic life story. He/she needs knowledge on the right way to talk to their patients and how to put themselves into the others point of view. Without the knowledge about yourself, others, and the world around them they'll suffer with the doubts and questions.
Around the world in many poor countries, like the countries in Africa and some countries in Asia, children and woman, sometimes men, don't get the education they need. Humans, with no choice, are dying because people don't have the knowledge or schooling to cure diseases and cancer. Children are beaten,sacrificed, or just killed because they are ill and the rest don't want their sickness. It's not fair that many countries don't have an education and it hurts knowing that you can't really do anything to help them. It's also not fair that these poor people would actually cherish an education and the people who already get to go to school just throw it away.
Many people in North America don't understand the reason of what an education can do for them. They believe that they can succeed at anything without it. For the people that do go to school for reasoning understand that they can accomplish anything if they put their mind to it. They can create new things for this country and for the other countries out there in the world. All people have an advantage in life, but don't bother to use it because they just don't realize the possiblities. Your life can be great but you have to try and make it that way. Yes, it's true, an education is not always easy to get but don't throw it away and ruin your chances, keep trying and believe in yourself because once you succeed, anything is possible. An education is important, don't let anyone or anything tell you other wise.

Darien Czarnecki - 6th period
2008-10-01 01:40:22 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell's quote he's saying that a school education will make it difficult to be intelligent and leaves no room for free speech. Education can prevent those who don't know how to use it from gaining knowledge, so individuals like this dont really have their own thoughts of free speech. In ways, i agree with Russell, but i also belive that if you have enough common sense to see the way school education is holding you back, you can fight it.
Evey other year, we have to start at a new school, only to find what we have learned in the previous years is no longer valid. Because the schools cirriculum is one that is to give all students one mind. If we can change this, and still learn in the process, mankind will thrive diversity.
Being a student, i've seen what Russells talking about. Watching teachers skip by students they didnt like, or unjustly marking down students grades was the life delt with by many.But because getting an education is important (and manditory) in todays society, most people at one point or another have to go to school. So instead of trying to fight it, change it for your own personal gain.
Khadijah Bradley, 3rd period

--Anonymous
2008-10-01 23:42:42 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell's quote he's saying that a school education will make it difficult to be intelligent and leaves no room for free speech. Education can prevent those who don't know how to use it from gaining knowledge, so individuals like this dont really have their own thoughts of free speech. In ways, i agree with Russell, but i also belive that if you have enough common sense to see the way school education is holding you back, you can fight it.
Evey other year, we have to start at a new school, only to find what we have learned in the previous years is no longer valid. Because the schools cirriculum is one that is to give all students one mind. If we can change this, and still learn in the process, mankind will thrive diversity.
Being a student, i've seen what Russells talking about. Watching teachers skip by students they didnt like, or unjustly marking down students grades was the life delt with by many.But because getting an education is important (and manditory) in todays society, most people at one point or another have to go to school. So instead of trying to fight it, change it for your own personal gain.
Khadijah Bradley, 3rd period

--Anonymous
2008-10-01 23:42:44 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell’s quote is stating that the public education system creates a barrier to keep children from using their imagination.
In my opinion this is true because the education system only allows one answer, the right answer. It does not allow children to think outside the box or think for themselves. The public schools have a “mold” for children to fit in, but every child is unique and can’t fit into the same “mold” as the public schools. So there for it constricts the child’s ability to think the way that is best for him. For every question there will be more than one way you can answer correctly. Some children might think alike while others will choose a different way of looking at it. Some children try to break the mental chain with disproving the teachers or fellow classmates and find another way to solve the question, but are punished with criticism and there for not wish to share their thoughts on how to do things other ways. Even though the child might be right they are still criticized on what they supposedly did wrong.
Also as to Russell’s quote, it is stating that education has put a mental chain on your brain so you can’t think for yourself either. Some teachers will show you the “right way” to do things, or their way of doing things. This also keeps children from expressing their imagination. If they are taught at a young age not to express their traits it will affect them all the years they have left in school. For example their 5th grade teacher will tell them you only write two sentences to make a paragraph, but then they go to another teacher and write a paper for them and get an “F” for only having two sentences in a paragraph. Then the child has no idea of what to do and is asking peers how many sentences should be in a paragraph.
I believe he is also saying that educating someone doesn’t necessarily make them capable of being smart. Standardized testing as well is one of the key reasons as to why this quote is being said. For example, the TAKS Test, a peer could be the top student in the class but fail the TAKS Test and not be able to graduate. Some students lack confidence and forget all the knowledge that was given to them and flunk the test. Personally from my experience that does not happen to me, but by judging the others around me they are easily frustrated and can’t think. Some fail, and some barely pass, but while I was in the class with them they seemed to know more than me. This is also pertaining to the first paragraph that some kids not only think differently but act differently as well.
I can easily connect to what Russell is saying because a lot of times I always find different ways to do things, but some of my teachers say that is the easy, but in reality it is the smart way to do it. But how I am usually criticized about my answers, I hardly ever say anything and marked wrong for not doing it the “right way”.
In conclusion, the public education system is one of the main reasons that kids are powerless of thinking right and unable to believe in themselves or others. Therefore becoming just like the education systems and disproving other kids and not giving them the right to try and answer things differently and correctly. The only way of keeping this from continuing is to control the education systems, and stop standardized testing.

--Xavier Wilson 4th period
2008-10-02 00:28:02 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is basicly saying that through out time generation to generation, we have been taught that education is the only way to intelligence. In school teachers teach students that intelligence is the only way to sucess. Bertrand Russell is also saying that education in school is stopping us from having an opinion and freedom of thought because most of the questions asked in shcool only come with one right answer. Therefore, its not giving us a chance to think outside the box and be your own person. Education is stopping students to think on their own. I disagree with Bertrand Russell. I do see where shes coming from seeing that there probably wasnt as many subjects taught when she was going to school as there is now. Now there are subjects and teachers that give you a chance to voice ur opinion like teen leadership, Mrs. Broussarrd, and World Geography.
-allexis Levy
1st period
--Allexis Levy
2008-10-02 01:00:33 GMT
Author:Anonymous
With the way the world is and how its run has got all our minds thinking that education is the only way to become intelligent. That is what the author is telling us. Thinking outside the box is how our world became what is today.
Back in the 1600s schools where not yet national. We went off self expression and communication. That was the key source of education. In 1635 our first school system came to be in Boston, Massachusetts. As the years went on our mentality changed completely. Going to school was very important to our society. It was also a symbol of knowledge, and wisdom. To go to school back in those days was a sure sign of success. Going to school also meant great wealth. May of the people who attended school was already wealth and wanted to gain more. Going to school was a sure way of expression and to introduce new things to the world. There were also many people who created things or even become great, without education. Abraham Lincoln was one of the greatest presidents that the U.S. has ever had. He led a whole country on what he believes and what he thought. He went against most of the people in our country. In September 22 1862 he issued the Emancipation Proclamation. The purpose of the Emancipation was to free the slaves and a symbol of equality. He made a change just by fighting for his own opinion and self expression.
Today we think the only way we can express ourselves and do something we think to change the world is only done through education. Education is not the only way. As a student there is hardly any room for self expression. There is only time for work and obtaining the knowledge. In class you listen and work no self expression. Students don’t get to share what they think only what the right answer to a question is. Most school these days are so strict that you can’t even express yourself through how you dress. How can anyone think that that is the only to have your own thought?
You are born with your own thought and the way you see things. Life experiences instead of school can help those thoughts come forth. That is one of the things people don’t think about. They just want to go to school and get an education to be successful. There are other ways to become success and obtaining knowledge without school. To change the way the world thinks about this issue is hard. The way our world is run today we are forced to have an education so without it you’re not able to do anything. Lot’s of people may deny you because you have no education. They believe you have obtained no knowledge so you must can’t perform at the same rate as a person who has went to school. So it can be more complicated to get your own thought out into the world. It’s like you’re a child who’s trying to have your own thought. No one will listen. That’s the issue here. No one will listen so you can’t pursue your own thoughts. People don’t believe that you can obtain knowledge only through school, not self taught.
To obtain knowledge and expression of thought is to learn from life. Attending school gives you a good lead on life but there is little self expression. As a student attending school, more freedom of thought is in my life not at school. The world would be more creative if we change are mentality on this over looked issue.


--Emily Bryant
2008-10-02 01:04:28 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Maybe if education in his time was more opinionated he wouldnt feel the same. Maybe the country he grew up im was more controlling and thats why he felt that way. Maybe if he were to go to school here in the United States it would have been different. His time period has a major impact on his opinion. There are'nt that many schools these days that dont let a student voice an opinion...well that i know of.
I also believe that education is the major way to success. To me u have to have some sort of intelligence to even voice an opinion becuase if you didnt have any intelligence in your head how are you going to know if your opinion is right, and even have any evidence to back it up. Or what about creativity? I Still think the same thing, you have know some facts to be creative because if you dont, and you just think of something out of the blue?? How are you going to know thats its not already thought of??
2008-10-02 01:16:43 GMT
Author:Anonymous
the last one was from me
-allexis levy 1st period
--allexis levy
2008-10-02 01:17:55 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I believe that Bertrand Russell was referring to the fact that students are simply taught to put down the “right answer”. This has become a major problem because students are not learning to think for themselves. If students are faced with an important decision, chances are, they will not know what to do.

This topic is one thing that several of my teachers, from seventh grade on up, have pointed out. Children are taught to look for the “right answer”. Maybe the teachers are becoming lazy and do not want to take the time to teach children how to think individually. This has been developed in the students’ brain starting around first or second grade. Children are taught to memorize definitions and math problems. Not to mention all the time3s students are handed worksheets and a book. This sets a mindset that says “in order to make it in the world, one must only think along the guidelines”. By “guidelines” I mean the set standard to which teachers compare their students.

Some ponderings such as these have inspired many controversies, one such being in the lyrics of one of my favorite songs. The song says, “come, as you are, as you were, as I wanted you to be…” This may not exactly pertain to this topic, it does however, pertain to the fact that people, children in particular, will simply follow the “path of least resistance”. This being the main problem with the education system, it has also affected our economy and society as a whole. This song shows that people are willing to conform to an easier route to be accepted instead of developing their own uniqueness. People will follow the status quo instead of searching and delving in their individuality. In order to feel good about themselves they will simply find the easiest answer and put it down. Also, the way tests are made does not help in this situation. With the majority of test being multiple choice, students are given less room for thinking about questions.

This confirmation of the problem that we must fix is a major step to finding a solution. This is why I agree with Bertrand Russell. I believe that people all have their own unique personalities; changes in the education system may help bring these personalities out. For example, the other day, I ran into another classmate who was searching very intensely in their textbook for something. When I asked what they were looking for, they responded, “What’s the right answer for this question”. The question asked when they thought the carrying capacity of earth would be reached. This is another perfect example of why we must teach children how to think for themselves instead of looking for what will get them an “A”. Instead of thinking about things and developing their own opinion, students are still looking for the “textbook answer”. I myself am not without this fault. I have decided that I will try new ways of answering a question that incorporate what I feel about the issue being discussed.

The conclusion that I have reached is that, with increase in opinion and freedom of thought in public schools, we can help society reach a higher potential. Freedom of thought can only be achieved if constantly practiced and taught from an early age. If teachers and schools n general will encourage more children to express opinions of their own about a certain topic, we will build a better future. In time I hope to find myself looking forward to questions such as “why do you think the Roman Empire ended when it did?” instead of “when did the roman empire end?” With some help our next generation will be more open to free thought and opinion.

--Javier Karikomi
2008-10-02 01:21:20 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote that was stated is saying that education is keeping an individual from having true freedom of speech and true intelligence. This is important because in some cases that is very true, some teachers and/or professors (what ever you want to call it) say they don’t want your opinion and they have no concern for it. That is true and false in a lot of different ways. It’s also important because you need your opinions and point of views to help define what kind of person you are and at the same time you need to have knowledge of the rest of the world so you won’t be clueless when you’re on your own.
I agree with the quote because your opinions held define what kind of person you are and can tell what your personality is like, students are taught to think one way and one way and answer one way. For example, AVID. I’m not trying to slam AVID because I’m in it but, in AVID you have to do all of your notes the same way and do it the same way every time. And that is taking away your ability to be creative and help your self learn better by taking a style of notes that helps you understand the most. Not everybody can take notes the same way, then retain and understand the information. It’s understandable how the note taking helps some people and for the others, it just takes away the ability to think for your self.
I would classify this paragraph as neutral because it doesn’t go one way or another. I believe that having a good education and true knowledge are both available to have at once because if you are a truly wise being, you would want to have fact and opinion. I think that they work together to create ultimate knowledge and wisdom. Having both of those things have a lot of importance and helpfulness when you have both of them.
I also disagree because in the world today you have to have a lot of information about almost everything to understand the world around you. You can’t be a doctor if you don’t go to school for all the required years. If you want true knowledge then you have to gain in and wisdom comes as you get older. To do what you want to do, you have to go to school. And I honestly don’t see why you wouldn’t have a freedom of speech unless; he means you loose the ability to think and create something that’s truly yours. For example, if you were taught a definition and it was banged in your head, you got to high school and it is something totally different. What’s going to happen? Do you just try to learn it and memorize it, or do you put it into something you can understand. You also have to think about how some counties don’t have education or you have to pay to go. In some countries only boys get to go to school. And in some other countries you get basic training and either go to school or get a job and work to help their families. There are a lot more situations like those happening in different countries all over the world.
In conclusion, the quote is saying that education is keeping us from having true knowledge and freedom of speech. You should care about this because some people loose a lot of their creativity by having to do something in a way that takes away their freedom of speech or more like their freedom of thought. It’s a very meaningful quote.

--Vanessa Harrison-3rd Period
2008-10-02 02:20:06 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In his quote Bertrand Russell states that education sets a standard of learning and writing, depriving the student from using creativity to expand their knowledge beyond that which is given to them by teachers. He says that the education system is making students get used to the idea that there is only one right answer to a question or only one right way to write an essay. Therefore making students fear the attempt at thinking in their own way or try to find a variety of ways to confront a problem. It also makes students memorize specified terms, solutions, and tactics and their use in specific situations, but it doesn’t prepare them when the situation and meaning or use of the term changes. For example, a student might be taught how to solve for a math problem that they see in a book, but he is not taught how to apply those problem solving skills to a real-world situation. And this fear of being wrong is only strengthen when students see their classmates get punished for trying to be original and expressing “freedom of thought”. Overall Russell states that teachers don’t teach students to account for variable change but otherwise teaches them that solving problems in any other way than the one taught is wrong. And schools fail to realize that this way of learning will not stop when the student stops his/her academic studies, it will continue on for the rest of their lives, and life has no standard.
I agree with Russell’s statement on education. The educational system has become a way to set a concrete road for student’s academics. In his time this would be described as teachers failing a student a grade for no reason, today it may be known as the fear of failing annual standardized testing. Since this is today the greatest fear of a normal student concerning academics, they attempt to follow those whom are said to prepare them for the test. Although some may believe that standardized testing is a firm way to maintain equality it does nothing more that enslave the student mind to working in a controlled way in which all students have the same thoughts, ideas, logic skills, and ability to solve problems. And the way to solve problems always comes to the same or a similar solution. But the way to come to a conclusion may not be the same for one student as it is for another. So part of the problem is not allowing students to use their own tactics and methods of reaching a conclusion, but rather saying “what works for one words for all”. But this can be clearly disproven by pointing out that people who are recognized in society for academic achievement have been those whom didn’t let a standard way of learning put down their ideas and thoughts. People like Isaac Newton who chose not to study that which had already been learned by man and go off to discover new things to be learned. And there are many people like this, Einstein, Shakespeare, Theodor Roosevelt, and many more. So is standardized learning guilty for the low progress and advancement in politics, economics, and everything that affects our daily lives? The answer on my part would be defiantly yes. And some guilt to those people who can think freely and choose to do nothing about it. Free thought is the reason for progress in human life. If it weren’t for it great discoveries and innovations, like genetics and cars, would have been still buried deep inside the mind of those who dared to think for themselves.
_by Leonardo Herrera-period 4

--L.J.H.
2008-10-02 03:36:25 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree with Bertrand Russell , I think education limits our freedom of thought. Russell most likely felt that he couldn’t form his own thoughts and opinions because he was not given a chance to. Because of some of the things we are taught during our school years, we don’t form our own opinions. While in school we don’t only learn the facts, but we hear the teacher’s and student’s thoughts about the subjects. We don’t get the chance to decide how we feel on our own. It is a blessing that we can get a good education. The problem comes in later down the line, when we need to make an opinion or decision about something and we just go along with what someone else thinks. A part of education is understanding what you have learned at your own level. We should be able to learn something, that is factual, and then have time to think about the situation and our thoughts about it. The school system tells us what they think is the right thing. Just because they think it’s the right way doesn’t mean we feel the same way. If we aren’t given a chance to think on our own n form our own thoughts, then we all are the same. Everyone see things in a different way. If we are told what to think and when to think, then we don’t have our own unique identity. I feel that a part of growing further in your education is to relating what is being taught to you and your life. Being told how it relates to someone else doesn’t help us see how it affects us. When Russell uses the word “obstacle” he is absolutely right. After we are done with our education, and go out into the real world we will have to retrain or brains to think on their own. It will be a challenge or as Russell said “an obstacle ” to get use to having our own thoughts and opinions. As a student myself, I have experienced a time when my educators thoughts filled my head and I was blinded by them. I couldn’t decide on my own how I felt. After I heard all of my teachers word, thought, and opinions. There was no chance for me to just hear facts and then make my own thoughts from that. Because of this I simply went along with what I heard. Other students, who have a hard time with thinking outside of the box, probably have never and will never form their own, unique opinions. It takes time to learn how to block out the thoughts and opinions of someone else. It takes time to just hear the facts and block everything else out. But, you can’t really blame this horrible fact on the educators themselves. It’s a natural thing to discuss how you feel about a subject. They may not realize that they’re teaching us their own thought and not the facts we need to know. Educators want us to have imagination and creativity. This is impossible to do own our own, when all we know is what someone else thinks. It becomes very hard to have a mind of your own, when all of the thoughts in your head are someone else’s.
--Alexis St. John 3rd Period
2008-10-02 03:48:01 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Quote: “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles of intelligence and freedom of thought.” ~ Bertrand Russell

Though Bertrand Russell lived nearly a century ago, those words are still true today. During the time period he was alive the education process was quite simple. The students were feed the answers to questions and they merely put down what they had memorized when asked the question. There was no room for their own opinions and thoughts in their answers. Whether they believe otherwise from the answer they were given they simply adapted the “correct” answer as their own opinion. This form of teaching is the basics of what is being done in our schools today. Though there are more resources available to teachers and students alike, the same premise for the teaching process is the same. This form of teaching does not promote individuality in a student’s answers. Because we have been feed the “one correct” answer for such a long time, they are unable to think beyond that. The answers that they have been, in other words, memorizing their entire educational career is not contributing at all to their intelligence. Because they only know it in the context their teachers have given them they cannot translate what they have learned into the real world. Even though the education system has come progressed, the system for teaching remains the same. That system is one that tries to fit students into a certain type of mold by giving telling them what opinions and ideas they have.

Bertrand Russell believed that without freedom of thought and intelligence there is no education. I can only assume that he thought that those two things are the key a good education. Neither of the two things is happening in the education system at this time. What is being done is that the education system is stripping away the students’ abilities to think for themselves, to come up with their own opinions, to add their own ideas. The absence of individuality and freedom of thought, and at times speech, in their education is a big reason as to why there is no progression in their intelligence. Students’, a good majority of the time, don’t learn the material. Most do not understand at all, but will memorize what if given in a study guide and do well in a test. As soon as the test is done the information they have memorized specifically for that test is forgotten and memorized again for yet another test. Memorization is a good technique but memorizing the answers with no idea as to why the answer is this or that is not. Again and again they’ll memorize the answers that were feed to them and it hinders their ability to think for themselves and beyond getting the “one correct” answer.

I completely agree with Bertrand Russell because I have experienced how education ultimately destroys that freedom of thought. In the country that I grew up in education was a privilege. I was fortunate enough to be born into a family that could afford to send me to school, unlike many of the kids in the poorer areas of the country. As early as four years of age the education system had already started to shape us, kindergarten kids, into perfect molds of what they expected. Not only were we given answers and told to connect them to certain questions, our characteristics were being molded as well. Beyond the grades for the work done in class, grades were given for how well we wore the uniform, how obedient we were towards the teachers, how we spoke. Everything that spoke for our individuality was changed to fit the standard they had set. Once I reached the 1st grade, I have already been fit into the mold they wished, along with everyone else. We were obedient, respectful, neat, and the closest things to perfect students.

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--Claudine Reyes
2008-10-02 04:31:20 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Not only were we being bombarded with the same feed – recite system of teaching, our personal characteristics were influenced and changed by the education system to fit a cookie cutter model of a student.

As standardized testing became more and more of an issue the higher of a grade I was in, the textbook was used more and more. We were no longer asked what our opinions on the question were; we were given the question and told to place the book answer inside. Often times I wondered if the true problem was the house burning down or the tenant being irresponsible enough to shut of the stove, but the “one correct” answer was always my answer as that was what I had learned to choose. It eventually arrived at a point where I no longer had any opinions of the problems and simply adapted what my teachers’ had said as my own ideas. When I approached high school and found that no textbooks were being used in many of my classes I shied away from the idea. My originality and creativity from years of being feed the “one correct” answer had taken a toll as well. Forming my own ideas and opinions was something I had to re-learn, or re-use. Thinking outside of the box and using what little creativity left inside my mind was something of a mental workout. I had become too used to the idea that the answer was going to be on the paper and all that was needed was a simple bubbling of a circle to be done. No explanation needed.

Freedom of thought is a building block of intelligence and education. The primary goal of education is help you become successful and prepare you for the real world. By hindering the students’ abilities to think for themselves and construct their own opinion it has done the exact opposite. When it comes to reality there will be no multiple answer choices. There will be no “one correct” answer. There won’t be a prompt giving you your opinion on a subject. You must take what you have learned, not memorized, and understood in the classroom context and translate it to the real world. Doing so is the only way you have increased you intelligence. Because of the feed – recite system of learning, education has not done anything to prepare students for the real world. To do so they must allow freedom of thought in their teaching. This will ultimately lead to the increase of the students’ intelligence. Without both, education will not be successful and will remain as an obstacle to true education.

WC: 1,071
-Period 7
--Claudine Reyes
2008-10-02 04:33:45 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell express education as imaginative thought not being able to be introduced to the world, because we have not allowed it to be introduced to ourselves.
When we do not allow ourselves to find our intellegence, we are not letting our potiental to be used.
Martin Luther King once stated, " the function of education is to teach one to think critically...Intellegence plus character-that is the goal of true education."
Meaning we choose the level of our lives get in the way of prevailing this to occur.
We as people with "free will(thought)" or choice make the decisions into the next steps we take to expand our intellegence. For example: last year middle school English had a few challenges...everything was given in a standard format, there really wasn't any room to do thinking on your own. Everything had to be done in a exact way. I thinxk that I might have settled for less...and didn't let my mind expand and find that great potiental which lied deep down within me. Now that I am in high school, I feel freed. Being at a well advanced level, it feels like a hand just dug way deep down in me, and is pulling out a new discovery.
I feel like I'm allowing expansion to take place. The level I am in my freshman class...at times it seems challenging, but I am taking more time to think about ideas and the possible unknown.
I also feel that teachers have a responsibility to students as well. If a teacher sees a student or students not understanding a concept they should try and explain it to them in another format. Not every single child learns in a certain way, some are visual, hands-on, while others are self-taught.
Bertrand Russell introduces that we[ourselves]are the only ones standing in the way of knowing what the mind is capable doing. Afterall there are no such things as limits to growth, because there are no limits to the human capacity for intellegance, imagination, and wonder.{author:unknown}
I honestly can say that the higher authority does not control our minds, but it is us as the learners who do.
In a recent report, it has been said that Jhon McCain was numbered 894 in his class out of 899 students. Do you really have to be well educated to be able to run a country? It was also stated that Sarah Palin droped out of college four times, and she did not recive a degree untill she attended college for the fifth time. Then she was granted a BA degree. So my guess is you don't have to be intellegent to be smart. If you think about it, most of the inventors were of the African or foreign race. And during Bertrand's time it was a struggle for other races to recive a proper education. Some of these inventors ideas were imaginations, but yet they were turned out to be the greatest creations. Now we are currently living in a world of creation, that was made by the greatest men and women back then, who had little or no education.
Unfourtunatly not everyone in America or the world has the capapility of freedom of thought. So therefore, their minds are powered by what they see on the television, what's written in newspapers, and gossip.
There has been a study that showed the homeschool child scores higher on the state level tests, than the public school child. Does this mean the curriculum at the homeschool level is better than that at the public levels? Are the public level studants able to expand their minds?
At certain points I can see why Bertrand Russell recited this quote. Education is something that should be taken very seriously, but yet the smartest people in the world do not have a high level of education, but that doesn't make them bieng without intellegence.So I ask you is education really a chief obstacle, to intellegance and freedom of thought?
--Shauntrice Woodberry
2008-10-02 04:55:56 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The Quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” By Bertrand Russell simply means that the students of this time aren’t getting the proper education needed to succeed. For example, after years of school when kids get to high school all students care about is finding the correct answer as fast as possible. This of course is school has its downfall, when students get to harder classes where they need to come up with an answer; they need to have evidence and imagination to back it up. What Bertrand is saying is that school should be teaching students how to think outside of the box.
Students all over the world will probably agree with Bertrand, because thinking outside of the box is a lot harder to do now then it would be to learn how to do it back then when they were in 2nd grade. All school cares about is getting students to learn the right answer and making themselves successful. Of course schools are focusing on book smarts, while they should be focusing on mind smarts.
We need to focus on our freedom of thought, many students agree with Bertrand Russell for two reasons. One they hate not being able to express their true mind when if they did, they could learn to be far smarter then they would be today if they followed book smarts. I too agree with Bertrand Russell, I have witnessed his theory come to life before my eyes, and it honestly makes me feel bad for the student know he/she is right and the teacher is just too stubborn to accept that he/she was wrong but someone who has less life experience is wrong. This is actually quite common among this generation.
If only school could change its ways unfortunately it’s too late. If they start now, only chaos could possibly be the result. There would be people who were on the right track for a job, but bring in this new education in the picture and they no longer learn anything that has to do with the job they would want. The economy would be completely out of balance as well as students. It’s very hard switching from right answer to an answer that takes place outside of the box.
Many students learned that this year when participating in Ms. Broussard’s class. She cares not about what the correct answer is, but what the reasonable answer is. She wants her students to give her an answer that they have evidence to back it up with. This is a very strange teaching method for many but I know that in the future it will pay off for all the hard work she’s putting her students through. She is teaching them how to argue with evidence, teaching them to correct paragraphs, teaching them an extraordinarily long vocabulary. This class is hard, but she is teaching them to get back onto the right track of life. Students need to learn this; there are many unappreciative students who would rather be in a normal English class. However with this proper education her students will be the successors of the future and will accomplish great things.
To be able to learn to think outside the box is the future education of the world. Students will be even more successful then if they would if they only had book smarts, which in the real world will most likely lead to nothing. Just ask yourself this everyday in class. When am I going to need this?

--Eric Ramon 4th Period Class
2008-10-02 20:05:28 GMT
Author:Anonymous
What Bertrand Russell is trying to say is that in school the way teachers teach is not right because students cannot think in different ways, students are starting to go off what they are getting told and not what they feel. Parents should care because they want their kids to be taught critical thinking and problem solving skills. This is something people have to deal with in everyday life situations. Kids should care because we go to school to have a high quality education, we want to know that we are going to school for a good cause, and to know that we are not going to school for nothing. All students should want to make sure they are learning new things, nothing we already know and do not need to use outside of school. I agree with Russell because the educational system we have stops us from freely thinking, it is actually a mockery. It is like a teacher is handing us things to say and telling us how to think. A few years ago I was working on an assignment in class, kind of like a class project, as we were going over the story we had to describe how we felt about what was going on and what we thought was happening in the story. When I told the teacher what I thought the story was about and how it could have been made better, the teacher told me that I was wrong .She said that you cannot have your own way of thinking ,you have to follow what the story is trying to tell you. That seemed to me like I was limited to my freedom of thought as well as freedom of speech. Sometimes it is good to think outside the box and come up with new ideas, but I know people will judge things off emotions. There is a certain way that people should handle themselves without always getting emotions involved. Teachers could be telling students things that may not be true because teachers basically got taught all those educational things and now they are teaching it to us, but do they know that if half the things they are teaching us are true for a fact? Students could be growing up learning a whole mixed up way of thinking. I had a teacher named Mrs. Thomas; she told me that she does think that we really do not have our own freedom of speech. She said that teachers educate the common sense out of students. Anybody can have freedom of speech and intelligence without being educated but I know that the system kind of teaches students that they always have to depend on somebody teaching them things instead of learning for themselves. People do not have to go to school to be educated. My grandmother quit school when she was in the eighth grade and she was able to get a successful job, raise ten kids, and still have time to just relax. She helped my mother with her homework when she was little. What I am trying to say is that teachers say they are teaching students things so they can have great jobs and be able to support their family and maybe be the richest person in the world, but they do not always need someone telling them what to do and how to do it. Students can make it somewhere in life off prior knowledge and their own intelligence. Now I could disagree with the quote like other students but I’m using my own intelligence and you should too.

Krystal Taylor
1st period
2008-10-02 21:38:30 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.


~Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
In this quote I believe that Bertrand Russell is trying to indicate that many students such as eighteen year olds will wait until the last minute and try to plan what they’re going to do with their life. In this quote I also believe that Bertrand Russell is saying that many teachers spend too much time teaching their students what to do and how to do it and don’t let them learn on their own.
Many teens during their senior year spend too much time playing around and don’t plan on what they’re going to do in the future. By the time graduation comes the seniors that are now adults don’t have anything to do with themselves. Instead o f the seniors applying for college or bettering themselves they do the opposite of success. They get pregnant, get drunk, having low jobs such as McDonalds, etc. Russell is indicating that many teens will try to apply for college too late and will end up not getting accepted such as some of the seniors at Shoemaker High School. When these types of obstacles occur, many students are not as prepared as the students who applied ahead of time, and then those specific students want be prepared of what is coming their way.
In this quote I believe that many teachers spend too much time on telling their students what they should prepare for such as the TAKS test and on what to do and how to do it instead of letting the students learn on their own.
I believe this statement is true only because I faced this specific situation. All my life from elementary school to middle school my teachers have always told me nearly the answer. I would go up to them and tell them that I don’t understand this. Then that teacher would explain it to me but in their explanation they would tell me the answer instead of figuring it out for myself. Now I’m in high school, and everything that comes out of the teacher’s mouth is a blur to me. I don’t understand a thing they are saying especially my third period teacher Ms. Broussard. I feel as if I’m in college, she’ll talk and I don’t understand what she’ll be talking about. Now I feel as if I’m all grown up. Now I have to do everything for myself. Nobody telling me word for word on what to do and how to do it. I’m all on my own now. It’s one of the hardest obstacle I had to face in life, but she makes me work hard because in life and especially when you go to college nobody is always going to be there to tell u word for word and how to do what you are doing.

--Kadijah
2008-10-02 22:42:06 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.


~Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
In this quote I believe that Bertrand Russell is trying to indicate that many students such as eighteen year olds will wait until the last minute and try to plan what they’re going to do with their life. In this quote I also believe that Bertrand Russell is saying that many teachers spend too much time teaching their students what to do and how to do it and don’t let them learn on their own.
Many teens during their senior year spend too much time playing around and don’t plan on what they’re going to do in the future. By the time graduation comes the seniors that are now adults don’t have anything to do with themselves. Instead o f the seniors applying for college or bettering themselves they do the opposite of success. They get pregnant, get drunk, having low jobs such as McDonalds, etc. Russell is indicating that many teens will try to apply for college too late and will end up not getting accepted such as some of the seniors at Shoemaker High School. When these types of obstacles occur, many students are not as prepared as the students who applied ahead of time, and then those specific students want be prepared of what is coming their way.
In this quote I believe that many teachers spend too much time on telling their students what they should prepare for such as the TAKS test and on what to do and how to do it instead of letting the students learn on their own.
I believe this statement is true only because I faced this specific situation. All my life from elementary school to middle school my teachers have always told me nearly the answer. I would go up to them and tell them that I don’t understand this. Then that teacher would explain it to me but in their explanation they would tell me the answer instead of figuring it out for myself. Now I’m in high school, and everything that comes out of the teacher’s mouth is a blur to me. I don’t understand a thing they are saying especially my third period teacher Ms. Broussard. I feel as if I’m in college, she’ll talk and I don’t understand what she’ll be talking about. Now I feel as if I’m all grown up. Now I have to do everything for myself. Nobody telling me word for word on what to do and how to do it. I’m all on my own now. It’s one of the hardest obstacle I had to face in life, but she makes me work hard because in life and especially when you go to college nobody is always going to be there to tell u word for word and how to do what you are doing.

--Kadijah
2008-10-02 22:43:20 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Education is teaching and learning or acquired knowledge. There was once a time when I use to be able to speak out and say what I felt was right. When I know what I’m supposed to say I tend to hide it inside of me, when I know what the correct answer is. Everyone is saying education is important but how is breaking us down to where we can’t speak what we want helping us. Bertrand shows in his quote that education is our obstacle to freedom of thought because it breaks us down until we can’t think how we did when our teachers tried to open our minds. In elementary school they teach you to say what you think is right. It seems that middle school wants things done a certain way. Their way isn’t wrong or right. They helped us in so many ways but with their teachings they closed our thought process where we could just think free. Many people feel scared to say what they know is right. They have it in them to say it but it’s that doubt in their brain maybe I’m wrong. Education is very important but they can’t give to us what’s already there we just haven’t tapped into it yet. Having a background education helps but it’s not going to help us if you don’t have common sense. Think about how it feels to be free to not let anything bother you. That’s what education blocks. I’m not saying that education is a bad thing but the way the teachers teach some kids are hiding our true potential. We learn things everything but what Bertrand Russell is saying you are not going to learn everything from sitting in a classroom. Something’s you might just learn from watching things around you and listening to what you hear. Bertrand is saying that education is not the only way. You can look at my grandpa he didn’t finish high school but that doesn’t mean that he isn’t an intelligent man. A lot of slaves didn’t have a school to go to so why you think they were so smart they observed what they saw and understood what they needed to do to survive. I the slaves didn’t have a teacher teaching about all these subjects we have then why we put such a big push on education. It’s because everybody thinks that if you have an education you can get farther in life than just relying on common sense.
I also think that he saying that if we were to figure out a way to retain what the teacher is giving us and also keep that open mind that we would be unstoppable. We would know what to say at the right time but also have the knowledge to know that if an answer is right we don’t have to be shy we can speak out and know that we tried. It’s not like we have the answer in us but we scared to say it or write it. We would be able to almost write almost perfect papers. We would have both of the knowledge we would need in order to have a good argument and also figure out a way that if somebody was to read it they would see your what you r opinion is without stating your opinion. I think Bertrand is right in two ways that education can be good but it can also be bad if you don’t know how to retain the correct information. He shows that you can have education but you have to also have common sense so you can have your own freedom of thought.

--Lanisa Haynes
2008-10-02 22:43:22 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Russell’s quote he is basically talking about how education takes away the freedom of thought. Being a student that has a huge imagination I agree that that is what education does. Education wants you to think that there is only one way to do something when there might be several ways. Take for example Shoemaker High School’s algebra two teacher Mr. Dell. There has been numerous times when students have shown Mr. Dell other ways of doing algebraic problems. He agrees with what the students are saying but he says that for certain tests (ex. TAKS Test) you have to do it a certain way. And that is an example of how education can make you learn only one way of how to things.
But then there are people that agree one hundred percent with the opposite of what Russell is saying. But I think that those people are lame. I mean how could you think that having a child learn only one way of doing something is right? I mean it’s absurd! What if some one tells you to jump off a bridge? Are you going to be able to think for your self and say no or are you going to do just the one thing some one tells you to do? It is just cruel to make children think there is only one way to do things.
Now I’m not saying that a little education is bad. I’m just saying that teachers should not just show one way of how to do something, because the way that the teacher shows may not be the easiest way. There might be an easier way of showing how to do something. And by showing all the possible ways to do something the children the teacher teaches might learn better and become smarter people.
There are people out there like my lovely English teacher Mrs. Broussard who agree with me which is surprising due to the fact that she is a teacher (ha ha ha ha little joke Mrs. Broussard). But its not just teachers. Students, philosophers, and parents are also, for lack of better words, are rebelling against these rules. They are saying that the education system is taking away the creative minds of kids, students. So if you have not been able to see what my point is just read this: the education system is limiting the creative minds of students by telling them what is the only way of doing things when there might be more than just that way of doing things.

--Fredrick Tyler
2008-10-02 23:32:48 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is making a statment that education is interfering with our opinions, and we think of things. I think that is wrong for teachers to tell us what we should think. We should have a choice of what we want to think. Also that when we were younger, like when we were in elementary school, we had to learn right from wrong. That was a good thing they taught us that, but that still doesn't give them a good enough reason to teach us rules, rules, rules. I all ever hear are rules, when are people just going to stop and listen to kids for once. I think that if kids had more of an opinion they would be able to acheive more because they won't be afraid to say anything. When it comes to education...well of cousre we all need it, but we shouldn't have to learn it in the correct way, we should learn it in an opinioniated way. Why do you think so many kids no and days are dropping out of school, they are bored and tired of it because they have to learn things where they don't get to speak out and give their opinion about what they are learning. Sitting in classroom all day is not a very good way to show your freedom of thought. If you want to show your freedom of thought, you should go on out there and express yourself. We shouldn't have to keep it bottled up inside of us. Also as we grow up, we are going to be scared to speak up for ourself. We are always going to have people tell us right from wrong all over again like your a child. As we are still growing up we need to learn to speak for ourselfs and have a freedom of thought, so that way we can acheive more. So what Bertand is trying to say is that we should not have to keep our minds closed from good things. We should keep them open to the right things, so that we won't be afriad of the world when we become adults. You should also not keep your mind to wide open because you might not have the right amount of knowledge to get into a college. Knowledge is important, but so is having a freedom of thought.

--Vanessa Wilson Per.7
2008-10-02 23:36:07 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The above blog was done by Fredrick Tyler of the period 4.
--Fredrick Tyler
2008-10-02 23:36:48 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The one above Vanessa is mine from period 4.
--Fredrick Tyler
2008-10-02 23:38:07 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I think what Bertrand Russell is trying to say is that society has blinded us from our real true feeling and thoughts. Instead they have made it to where all of society is starting to think the same.
Teachers have mistakenly transformed students into thinking that there is always only one right answer. Unfournatley in the real world life is not like that. We need to be able to think not only about the right answer but also what we think can be another answer to the problem. Teachers ask students quesions in class, but they only want the correct answer. This doesnt enable us to be able to think outside the box. Students should not just be limited to one thought.
When i was in elementary school i used to read a whole lot. The reason i read alot is because i could just have any kind of thoughts on how the story may end or about whats going to happen next. But when i reached junior high school i stopped reading as much as i used to , because i was trained to where when i read a story and i thought about it i would have to be right. So that made me not as interested in reading as much unfournately. I just love to be able to just have a broad imagination. But we are being critized or said that we need to have a right answer when we want to tell the teacher what we think.
Students now try so hard in school just to get the right answer they are not worried about what they feel about that certain topic. It really sucks because school was not made for just the right answer; it was made for different personalities and minds to combine and figure out the right answer. Ever since i have been in school i have never been as challenged as i am in Ms. Broussard or Ms.B. At first i was in regular ninth grade English 1 and then i noticed that it was kind of to easy, so i decided to get my schedule changed to Pre AP English. When i told everyone about that they asked me who class was i going to be in and i said "Ms Broussard' and they told me good luck. I did not notice until i got into her class what they meant by good luck. I have never in my life thought so much. I dont mean about the right answer i mean thinking out side the box.
It came by surprise to me because all along i had thought that i had a great imagination. Its really hard trying to explain something even though you have the right answer because thats all i have learned just to get the right answer. Even though teachers mean good by their teaching their actually hurting us because we are not able to go out into society with a open mind. Its very hard trying to understand things in Ms. Broussards class because i am not use to being able to think about the universal meaning of what something means. But i am glad that there are teachers out there that do understand that we are being blinded by to much intelligence. Because if i did not have a teacher like her i do not know how i will be able to exceed in the broadcast journalism field;i need a big imagintaion and i need to be able to think outside the box.In my conclusion i think that there will always be teachers or instructors that just want the right answer. But we as the people have to be able to stand up to the teachers and say that we will no longer be blinded by intelligence from our true feelings and thoughts. But as a society we just need to be able understand that there is a right answer but people have ideas too.



Kenyonna Barley
3rd period
--Confused in 3rd Period
<mailto:detroit4life10@aol.com>
2008-10-02 23:38:42 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Freedom of Thought - The action in which an individual may express their opinion through their own voice, with out be corrected or shunned. An action by which we students of the U.S. education system no longer have. We students are always taught to be correct. One answer without maybes’, ifs’, or ands’ .We are all told that we are equal, yes; that statement is true, but when comes to our thoughts and opinions…that statement…becomes a confusion. The education system puts all students at one level, believing that every student can pull off “level” of intellect. Students are taught that without the right answer, we will always be wrong. We are told to express nothing, with the threat that our opinion alone may be a disruption.

I can recall a teacher telling my class that “It’s good to think for yourselves, but when you waste my time, I can only hope but to have enough anger in me to shut you up”. A shocking statement that affected every one of those pre-teens that sat in the class. It damaged my thought of how I would only ever be able to express in writing. I don’t have a problem with writing though many of my peers are opposite. Education is the key to how we live our lives. But if education closes the door on individual thought, no one survives. The nation is supposed to b based on our freedom, and yet, everyday we must ask ourselves, really, what freedom is. What we must understand is that though we are all equal by appearance, our minds can only be so unique. Students of all races, age, and gender will need that extra help. No matter the level or grade. So when the teacher gives one student more attention than the other, how does that balance out? Bertrand’s quote is very agreeable, in that education and free thought are a must. Without it, we are nothing.

There are plenty of ways to prove that our educational system has become deplorable. Text books are being less used during school. Students are being introduced to computers and electronics, most; students can’t get to at home. Those students whose families have a low income can’t get to recourses as well as other students might be able to. They’re cutting off the whole policy of the “No child left behind” act. As it seems you can stay in school as long as you need to in order to receive and education they are dropping kids from the bottom for economic stress. I agree with Russell to the fullest. The intensity of stress put on students these days has become unacceptable. Students are expected to “know” the material even though the school placed them in the class by random effect. Education is not, will not, and ever was fair to the student body.

Jenna Banaag
--Jenna Banaag
2008-10-02 23:48:28 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell expressed in his quote that an education diminishes a person’s free will and opinion by denying them the possibility of experiencing the infinite amount of different answers and experiences in life. Russell understood that an education was sought by the public as a road to knowledge. However, on account of his conviction that an education is nothing but a roadblock to individuality, he called this a paradoxical fact. Russell believed that an education was nothing more than a standard way of learning the majority beliefs of the public rather than determining what we believe based on our own opinions, morals, and experiences.
Though I understand Russell’s perspective on education, I do not fully agree with his statement. The purpose of an education is to understand the basics of the fundamentals that drive an economy. We each learn the basics of math, science, social studies, and English so that we may thrive in any job environment that we choose to pursue. An education is not used to brainwash our beliefs or to change our opinions, but is used to teach us what we need to know about life. We live in a world based on economy, where our jobs determine the state of our country. An education is there to give every person a chance to thrive in life. All we have to do is follow the tools that our education, our knowledge, will enable us to do. Our economy is always changing and as it changes so must we. The education standards are raised substantially in order to meet the necessity of the economy. For example, with the new era of technology, more maths are required during high school. An education is needed to continue the economy, our lives, and our world.
Russell’s statement also claims that education takes away a person’s individuality. I highly disagree with this because all an education does is lead us to our own personal strengths. We learn what we are good at and what we have difficulty with. We learn what our interests are based upon our strengths and shy away from what we dislike. An education drives us to choose a career that we enjoy; this is our freedom of thought. We decide what we do in life; this is our individuality.
By just going through life judging by what you think is right, the world would not be where it is today. One person is different than the next and will have a different opinion on certain matters than you will. Without education, the global advances made in the fields of medicine and technology would not have benefited the world. Without the discoveries of vaccinations and antibiotics, the world would have suffered through many plagues and diseases. The health field has benefited our world immensely. Our state of life is held within that certain part of education. It takes instruction to teach others so that they may continue the work that has benefited the majority of the world.
An education is not just learning math or science, but learning how to be social. You learn to try, succeed, and fail. Receiving an education within itself is an experience and without this experience you miss out on all the fundamentals of life. You learn the basics needed to survive in life and how to interact with others. An education is a road to success and without it life is without experiences. Trying to live life by your opinions and morals without the guidance of instruction is a path that will mislead you to chaos. An education is a universal need that allows us to discover what we can contribute to the world.

--Cassandra Pizarro 4th period
2008-10-03 00:20:44 GMT
Author:Anonymous
^ I meant 1st period =P
2008-10-03 00:21:37 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell was a strong believer in what he said concerning education. He believed that the education curriculum of the past holds back the creativeness of the human mind. What Bertrand said is somewhat the same for today. Education is meant to be a good thing ,but as always something created by the human mind is not flawless. Education today can sometimes act as an alarm clock and awaken the creativeness of a person , or it can become the snooze button in which creativeness falls into a brief slumber.
The education curriculum contradicts it’s purpose as Bertrand said, but not as much as it used to. The education curriculum is meant to expose the human mind to new things, and give or feed it knowledge ,yet it encloses the mind in a box that is very hard to escape from. I am neither for nor against the issue ; I am merely neutral. The goods and bad’s of the education curriculum are just like vinegar and baking soda ; nobody likes them alone , but together they create something everyone can enjoy. When I look at the education system where the curriculum comes from I cannot only taste the goodness ,but I can also see the lumps.
In elementary school my teachers used to teach me and my classmates according to the curriculum, and everyday at least one of my teachers would say, “This curriculum is not write ,and I don’t have time to fix it.” The curriculum is made so that no student or teacher can say ,“ well you didn’t teach my child this in the right amount of time.” With that being said , it shows that the curriculum allows students to see the skills needed to max the standard tests ,but not all the skills needed to max the skills of life. The curriculum gives students a little of the information and expect them to acquire the rest through life experiences on their own. In elementary school I saw that they taught students out of a book. The books communicates to students that there is only several right ways to do a problem with only one correct answer, and leaves no time in between for commentary or input of the teacher. Now the rules have changed ,and teacher’s have some say in what is done , and how it’s done.
As always there is another side to the story. I believe personally that the education system is a brilliant idea , but as everything humanly made does ,it needs some minor adjustments. The way the curriculum is set up makes me rejoice at times . It has let me explore vast lands that I never knew my mind could contain. World’s of history, my ancestry, science mathematics ,etc. Another thing I absolutely love about the education curriculum and system of today is that it is subject to change. I always thought that the book was right until the end of time, and that there was only one right answer. Also I never had to argue .I was what the book said, and that was enough. This was until I met a lady named Mrs. Broussard. She taught me that there is more than just one right answer , and that you have no choice but to argue about it . Your opinion like your friends you will always have to back it up.
Just like a double edged sword the education system ,education curriculum, and even education itself Bertrand talked about then cuts the same way it does now ( with a little technology improvements). The creativeness of the human mind is shut down only to be reactivated by the very source of knowledge and power that became it’s downfall. Remember the education curriculum is subject to change. Like Muhatma Ghandi said , “ You be the change you want to see in the world.”

--Frederick Reese
2008-10-03 00:23:40 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote states that the institutions of the development of the mind are not allowing students to think of their own free mind, that they force knowledge upon them. It states that students may not be able to think to a full extent. That when students finish with schooling much of their unique talent of expression has been dispersed. The author is saying that instead of giving students the tools of knowledge, the teachers are doing and showing the students how to exactly to use these tools. It is this showing and telling that is taking away the unique ability to think and defend the answer that the student has come up with. When the student tries to find an answer uniquely the teacher tells the student that the answer is wrong and that the student is using the wrong technique to find the answer. So undoing that small unique ability the student has just expressed. After that it will slowly and surely chip ever so slightly at this ability. He states that once this is done the student will rely on the teacher for every answer instead of relying on their ability to choose the answer themselves.

I agree with this quote because of past experience. When I compared these two teachers to the rest of my teachers, was when I found out of the diminishment of my talent to express why I chose this answer and the ability to defend it. Many helpers of education that I have had told me to find an answer but before I could start they would come and tell me that I was absolutely wrong and that this was the right answer. Only two times have I had a teacher that has told me there is no true answer and that any answer I had, I had to defend. As far as I can remember all the way to the eighth grade my teachers have given me the answer, but when I reached the eighth grade one teacher told me to find an answer and explain it. Now that I am in the ninth grade I have four teachers that tell me to find an answer, explain it, and defend it. Now I may express myself to its fullest on why this is the answer and why everyone should listen and care about it. With these helpers of the development of the mind and the information I have now learned, I hope to gain true development of the mind.

You should care about this because if you have ever been in this situation you now know that your freedom of thought is now limited than what you thought. Now you know that when a teacher tells you that you have the wrong answer you know you have a problem. You know that you should argue that fact and prove that it is the right answer. If then the teacher continues to question your answer and tell you its wrong, you have a problem. This is the teacher trying to diminish the unique ability that you have just expressed. This will also slowly chip away at this ability until you have to rely on the teacher for every question and answer. Instead of letting the teacher show you and give you the tools of knowledge, you can take them yourself and figure out how to use them to your advantage and use them to the fullest extent. Now that you know why to care about this quote please share it with your friends and inform them that they have been cheated of a true education.


Sincerely,
William T. Partain

--trevor
2008-10-03 00:38:23 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree with Bertrand Russell because if there were no education nobody would be able to get a gob or hold down a steady life. Without education, you wouldn't be much of anything because there is a little chance that people with no education becomes a somebody. If there was no education most people would be living on the streets or living with relative.


Some teachers are making education too easy for some students and too hard for other students. Some teachers are telling students the answers when they ask for help instead of making the student do their work. Some teachers let students control the classroom and it makes it hard for students who want to learn concentrate. If the teacher is spending more time with the students that don’t need hell than the ones that do need help is why most of the students are failing or just having a hard time understanding. Most of the time students are failing a class because the teacher is going to fast or they don’t understand and it is hard to pay attention to the teacher if he/she is not slowing down to help. One of the most disturbing obstacles is few teachers. There are fewer teachers in some schools than in other schools. This causes a problem because classrooms are overcrowded and students are having a hard time learning. Overcrowded schools make it difficulty for teachers to help a lot of the students. Some teacher would not have a lot of time to spend with all of the students who really need help. Another problem with crowed school is the teacher spends more time yelling or telling them to quiet down so there is not very much teaching going on.
Bertrand Russell is trying to say that education is the key of life and freedom of speech and thought. Basically he is trying to say, that education is needed for a lot of things we do in everyday life. If you don't have education there is not a lot of stuff you can do without it and you will not be able to do what you dreamed of doing with your life. Also what Bertrand Russell is trying to say, is that whatever you want to do in life education is always a big part of it. A lot of people say education is boring but it helps you maintain a good life and live in a steady and good environment. A lot of teens and adults think you don’t need education and end up dropping out of school and later in there life they don’t have a gob, don’t have money for food, don’t have a house to live in. A lot of teenagers and young adults think that you don't need education to do certain things like football, basketball. Some people might not think you need an education to play football or basketball, but the truth is you do need an education someone could end up stealing your money or you wouldn't have anything else to fall back on when your career is over. Even though education is spreading around the world there are still countries that don't let women or children get an education. This is why I think we should be thankful that we are allowed to go to school, and choose what we want to do with our lives.

He expresses his strong belief that education takes away from freedom of thought and true intelligence. I coincide with what he is saying. In my eyes, true intelligence comes when you’re able to understand the “correct answer” of your discussion, while knowing it‘s okay to express your thoughts. As students, we get so caught up in perfection rather than realizing, “okay, this may be the text book answer, but I still have the right to think this.” Standardized tests are a perfect example of education taking away from our freedom of thought. When the time of year comes for TAKS tests, an extreme amount of stress is put on the students. We are told to pass this test or be retained who wouldn’t get stressed out about that? Many students aren’t pushed to their full potential because they tend to feel they have no say in the education they’re receiving. When we are allowed to speak out and voice our thoughts without being told we‘re wrong, students will beg
--Anonymous
2008-10-03 00:38:51 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree with Bertrand Russell because if there were no education nobody would be able to get a gob or hold down a steady life. Without education, you wouldn't be much of anything because there is a little chance that people with no education becomes a somebody. If there was no education most people would be living on the streets or living with relative.


Some teachers are making education too easy for some students and too hard for other students. Some teachers are telling students the answers when they ask for help instead of making the student do their work. Some teachers let students control the classroom and it makes it hard for students who want to learn concentrate. If the teacher is spending more time with the students that don’t need hell than the ones that do need help is why most of the students are failing or just having a hard time understanding. Most of the time students are failing a class because the teacher is going to fast or they don’t understand and it is hard to pay attention to the teacher if he/she is not slowing down to help. One of the most disturbing obstacles is few teachers. There are fewer teachers in some schools than in other schools. This causes a problem because classrooms are overcrowded and students are having a hard time learning. Overcrowded schools make it difficulty for teachers to help a lot of the students. Some teacher would not have a lot of time to spend with all of the students who really need help. Another problem with crowed school is the teacher spends more time yelling or telling them to quiet down so there is not very much teaching going on.
Bertrand Russell is trying to say that education is the key of life and freedom of speech and thought. Basically he is trying to say, that education is needed for a lot of things we do in everyday life. If you don't have education there is not a lot of stuff you can do without it and you will not be able to do what you dreamed of doing with your life. Also what Bertrand Russell is trying to say, is that whatever you want to do in life education is always a big part of it. A lot of people say education is boring but it helps you maintain a good life and live in a steady and good environment. A lot of teens and adults think you don’t need education and end up dropping out of school and later in there life they don’t have a gob, don’t have money for food, don’t have a house to live in. A lot of teenagers and young adults think that you don't need education to do certain things like football, basketball. Some people might not think you need an education to play football or basketball, but the truth is you do need an education someone could end up stealing your money or you wouldn't have anything else to fall back on when your career is over. Even though education is spreading around the world there are still countries that don't let women or children get an education. This is why I think we should be thankful that we are allowed to go to school, and choose what we want to do with our lives.

He expresses his strong belief that education takes away from freedom of thought and true intelligence. I coincide with what he is saying. In my eyes, true intelligence comes when you’re able to understand the “correct answer” of your discussion, while knowing it‘s okay to express your thoughts. As students, we get so caught up in perfection rather than realizing, “okay, this may be the text book answer, but I still have the right to think this.” Standardized tests are a perfect example of education taking away from our freedom of thought. When the time of year comes for TAKS tests, an extreme amount of stress is put on the students. We are told to pass this test or be retained who wouldn’t get stressed out about that? Many students aren’t pushed to their full potential because they tend to feel they have no say in the education they’re receiving. When we are allowed to speak out and voice our thoughts without being told we‘re wrong, students will beg
--Destiny jarzynkowski
2008-10-03 00:41:52 GMT
Author:Anonymous
A paradoxical fact of education is the right of free thought. The educators are giving us the answers on a silver platter. It’s not only the educators at fault; some of the educators want us to be free thinkers, but on the other hand some do not. This is a very important topic because some students only look for the one answer that they have been told to look for, a very long time. You would think at some point, over time someone would have tried to tell the educator to find another way to teach the student to find an answer. Now they won’t look outside the box to find their own answer but one that the teacher will accept. The superintendent needs to work with the teachers so that they can do their job and help the students think for them self. For the longest time that I can remember I was told how to do everything one way. Now that I’m older I have been trying to do more things on my own. My parents respect that. The inspiration to excel comes from my parents. They were the ones who inspired me to do so. But if I do get stuck in the process of doing my own work I will ask for help, but my parents don’t tell me that I have to do it one way. I would go and turn it into a way that I can understand it better. That’s what the schools should be doing for us instead of telling us we have to do it this way and this way only. They are just giving us the answers to the questions. The problem of giving the answer is that the student is not benefiting from getting the answer. Educators are just setting students up for disaster in the long run. If educators really cared about our education they would help us when we come to them for help and make us think instead of giving us the answer. That is one of the problems with our education. Like some of the jobs now require you to have a bachelors degree, and some of the students would not be able to get the job that they want to get and it could be the smartest person, but they can’t go to the college that they want to. Why because they couldn’t pass three of their classes that they needed to pass to go to the next grade. Now the college is looking at that grade that they didn’t pass and now they are wondering if they should accept that person. Now that person is wondering why they didn’t get that called back and now they’re like it was that one year that they didn’t pass. There like only if those three teachers weren’t slacking off they probably wouldn’t have to work at Jack in the Box they probably would have been working at their dream job. Substitutes are also in the educational system. They play a big part in our education. If the substitute doesn’t understand what the teacher wants them to explain to the students they would be behind in that day. So the teacher has to give us home work after explaining it to the students in full. So that next day a few of the students didn’t do their home work but they didn’t care because they were really cool with the teacher. So they ask the teacher for that passing grade they needed. The teacher said okay. The teacher’s actions set the student up for disaster by giving the student the answer. All teachers don’t fall into this category but a lot of them are failing the students.


--period 3
2008-10-03 00:54:02 GMT
Author:Anonymous
yea i put my name in the wrong spot my b
--cedic jackson
2008-10-03 00:57:20 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is stating that due to years and years of teachers telling you what you need to know and not allowing you to have some leeway, and actually think about what you think could or would have happened they tell you one way and one way only should you remember these things and this causes you to loose your creative thinking in other words forcing you to think as one and not as individuals. For example even though now a days people go to school to be artists back then all of them did not and were still as good of artists as the next man or woman who may have even had a bachelors degree in some type of artistic classes. I also believe that it is true that education can sometimes be an obstacle it really depends on the way you look at it. If you suggest that education is as obstacle to someone becoming a doctor I would have to disagree with you completely because I don’t want a doctor operating on me and doesn’t know what they are doing they could possibly kill me. But if you say education could be an obstacle to someone becoming a photographer or painter I would agree with you. I’m not saying you shouldn’t go to school for these things, I’m just suggesting that to me the one’s that don’t go to school for it tend to have a greater passion and their paintings and pictures seem more realistic.
I do believe his statement is true but I’m neutral because I feel education is still a very important and needed thing. For example: Say if the people that work for N.A.S.A and other major corporations like that did not go to school horrible things would happen. They would not know what they were doing and quite frankly, the corporation probably never would have been created because no one would have enough knowledge to even know what it would be about. I also believe if we did not have basic education (kindergarten through at least 6th grade) we would not be able to be creative. Because starting in kindergarten they start teaching you the little things you will need to be creative. Colors, words, how to write, etc. all these things I listed help you to eventually be an individual and have creativity. This also applies to writing poetry; writers write and speak from the heart but do it in very creative ways. When I was asked to write a poem I remember I struggled very much with it because I could not grasp the concept of writing poetry. I had never done it therefore, I was not able to make my poems very creative even though I got a B on the project I felt like if I had done this one before I would have been able to more creative and individualized and would have received a better grade.
I believe education is a much needed factor in our lives but maybe should be taught in a different way. Ways that actually challenge the Student to actually think for themselves and not the textbook think it for them and they find it. It should also be taught where the Students learn more than just how to answer questions as quick as possible but critical thinking questions as well that maybe sometimes you can’t figure you from your textbook but think of it on your own. I feel Mr. Bertrand Russell may have felt some of the ways I did which is why he wrote this quote to express his feelings about the educational system.
~Destiny McGarity 1st Pd. ~

--Destiny McGarity
<mailto:MIckeymouse_254@yahoo.com>
2008-10-03 01:03:51 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought. ~Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)





Bertrand Russell is saying that due to the way the educational system was made, we as students cant think "outside the box". We've been told there's one right answer, its all about the facts. When in all actuality that's not true. Many students have amazing capabilities to think in ways no one has even thought about. But since teachers have set one level of thinking and haven't let us have the freedom we need to do so, those students wont be able to shine in what they do good in. That's why this year in your class its different from me because I've always thought there's one answer and its a fact. But i recently learned that isn't necessarily true. I've learned to have an opinion and defend it. I've learned to think outside the box and go beyond the obvious. Most teachers don't teach you to do that but I'm thankful i have a few teachers that do.

This isn't only with education its with life. If you've learned to do one thing one way then its really hard to change. Like women back in the early 1900's, they were told to respect men and do this and that for him. But there were those few who stood up and said no I'm going to respected now. And many of those women got their rights for changing the way they thought by of expressing the way they felt. They (along with a lot of other people) made it possible for people other than white men to get an education. Even though that education system isn't the best it could be it still allowed them to learn the things that would later help them in life.

Like the TAKS test for example, that test is exactly what Russell is opposing. It says this and that and there's only one answer for the questions and they don't give us questions to see how creative we are. They just want to see if teachers did their job and taught us facts to know for the test. They don't bother so see how we think as students and see how deep we can get in thought. When that's not fair for us to express what we can do because I know i get excited when i get something right by thinking past the obvious. It makes me feel like I'm able to think at a higher level then most teachers led me to believe. That's why i dont enjoy the TAKS because they think if you pass the test you're "worthy" or "smart" enough to go to the next grade when really one test with multiple choice answer only shouldn't decide that. If they do great all year in their classes but do bad on the TAKS their punished for what they were "supposed" to think/know.

Freedom and intelligence are the key to a great education. With the system we have now freedom isn't one of the main parts. Teachers need to realize that we as students are capable of doing things beyond their wildest beliefs. If they give us a seed and tell us to plant a tree they should expect us to grow a forest, because with freedom and intelligence that's what we are truly capable of doing. All they need to let us do is express our thoughts not in the way we are "supposed" to but in the way we feel.
Shanice Peters
period
2008-10-03 01:05:53 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought” is basically stating that school limits you to self intelligence and your way to think for yourself. The quote is saying that we’ve stayed in school so long that it’s put strangulation on our mind and our way to think for ourselves. We sit in class being told what to do when to do and how to do it so much that we don’t know how to think for yourself. Through our school think about it the teacher gives you the notes on how to do it then gives you an assignment and say’s do it the way I taught you. The human brain function in a way that if it gets use to it doing a certain method and taking the similar precautions it will take those steps every time. This makes it hard to be yourself while writing an essay for an English class or any other for that fact. Also when teachers give a student a format and prompt to write a paper in a thesis statement, topic sentence it is really hard for the student to put any of their self opinions in the essay. The last thing that the quote is talking bout that is important is that if you don’t get some certain diploma stating that you have an education people will look down upon you. An example of this is getting a job as a lawyer or a doctor you have to go to some law school or medical school to do this. But in some cases there are people with the brain but don’t have the money and or scholarship for the school thus drowning them in a pool of minimum wage jobs.
With this quote that Bertrand Russell wrote I would have to agree with the words. I agree with him for several reasons but will only share with you the two that I find most fitting. The first reason is that I myself believe that school education sucks the own voice of the students. I believe this because first kid’s have no self opinion about a story essay that they have to write. For example say a student was reading to kill a Mocking Bird and had to write a full page essay, they write it on what happens in the book sequentially but not agreeing or disagreeing on any points. The second reason on this point is if a student fails a quiz test or anything that would be graded they always want it to be perfect and ace it. Now I want to Ace my grades to but unfortunately I’ve never found any one that could that and if they did I bet they’re a very unhappy person. Students get so caught up in getting the right answer on the test they don’t stop and think what they think about the situation. The last reason I agree with Bertrand Russell is the reason some student’s believe that they’re not intelligent after failing a grade level or test. This particular reason most of all makes me the most angry because some students actually commit suicide thinking they’re not worthier of the world without a degree. I will admit that with a college and high school degree you have much more oppurtunites than without. However there are many intelligent and wealthy people such as Tupac shakur, Niccolo Makeveli, and Lupe fiasco.
So again in the quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought” is in my opinion a fact that apprehends the world and its people till this day

-Marc-James Redwine

--Marc-James Redwine
2008-10-03 01:06:24 GMT
Author:Anonymous
What Bertrand Russell is trying to express is that people are being suffocated by the education system in the world. He is saying that people are being forced into learning how to something the “right” way. What he fails to voice is that more and more people are blaming the teachings at the schools for their inability to get deep into the thoughts of their own; that they try to see education as their own personal hindrance, their “obstacle”.

I disagree with Russell; people often use this obstacle as a crutch for excusing participation within a class like raising a hand or simply putting pen to paper and jotting down whatever comes to mind. They feel helpless when exposed to questions that require somewhat indirect answers and actual intellect.

Of course, our generation may only think that there is one answer to everything. There is always going to be a time when one answer will not suffice. If someone were to read a poem, say, a poem like Black Valentine and state that the tone was bleak and another were to state that it was depressing, they would both be right because poetry is meant for any individual’s interpretation and usually has more than one theme. We are taught this and encouraged to show out our own individual thoughts and be unique.

I believe that education actually opens the doors to creativity rather than stifling us and forcing us to conform to others around us, allowing us to be who we want to be while still at the same learning a way to do the fundamentals that will surely fit into our daily lives. For example, schools have art and band and dance classes to let us students let go and put emotion into our work. Of course, we all have to learn how to walk before we run. Otherwise how would Leonardo da Vinci paint the famous Mona Lisa without learning first how to paint a stroke? How would Dario Marianelli compose the piano pieces for the beautiful Pride and Prejudice without learning first how to play a note? How would Anna Pavlova dance the enchanting Sleeping Beauty without first learning how to pirouette? These are all examples of the learning basics that are needed in order to express oneself in a manner that doesn’t make one seem incompetent. Sure, a person could probably go out someplace while “being themselves” and say what they want through a form of art without any type of education, without learning the primary things that would make them better at whatever skill they might naturally possess, but odds are, any audience would throw that person back to where they came from.

I remember clearly a few days ago when one of my teachers had assigned his classes a project dealing with gathering information about the five themes of geography and applying it to items of our choice while being able to chose some sort of theme to make sorting out the information somewhat easier. One of my best friends had set her project theme on types of fruits and how they each related to three of the themes of geography. She came up to me in first period and asked, “Is this good enough? Was this how I was supposed to do it?” I answered to her that it was supposed to be how she thought fruits related to geography, not me. She pondered that for a moment and rolled her eyes at me. My friend basically—unknowingly—wanted me to tell her how to think the right way, the exact sort of behavior that is becoming a big issue these days. The difference is this was not my teacher’s fault; he never planned on making anyone feel insecure about himself through a project. My teacher told us to be creative.

If there is a teacher in the world that prevents freedom of thought, opinion, and personal method then that person is simply someone who happens to have superiority over you in a school class setting. That person is simply someone who happens to stand in front of a classroom and talk the facts. That person is not, under any circumstances, a teacher. I, in my lifetime, have not met a teacher with such a disposition nor do I hav
--Nozuko (Zukie) Sutherland-Millie
2008-10-03 01:14:08 GMT
Author:Anonymous
(COMPLETION OF PREVIOUS BLOG)
have any friends who have had this kind of problem. This, being said, just proves the fact that insecurity and lack of imagination does not lie within a teacher, but within the person himself.



--Nozuko (Zukie) Sutherland-Millie
2008-10-03 01:15:56 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell’s quote “we are faced with a paradoxical fact that has become one of the chief obstacles to inelegance and freedom of thought,’ means that the school’s educational system has limited student’s thoughts to the one right answer and discourages them to think outside of the box. In real life it’s the exaggerated ideas and the different approaches to obstacles that people truly care about.

I agree with the quote given by Bertrand Russell. There are many students in the class that have installed the one right answer tactic into their minds. They never think out of the box and into the deeper meaning of things. If an author is talking about a girl turning into a horse that is what the students will think he meant, when instead the author was trying to get the thought that freedom is a hard thing to obtain, you must be who you are and do not change for anyone. In the third grade when I was placed in the G.A.T.E. program we had to take a quiz, the test had questions like how does a boat move and all of the other students had all different answers than I did, so I thought either I got the answers wrong or they did but later on in the week I found out that there was more than one answer to each question. While I was in G.A.T.E the teachers taught me that there were different answers to almost everything in the world. Another example is like a food research lab. The people who run the facility hire people who think outside of the box, they could either hire somebody who makes honey flavored rice puffs cereal or they could hire somebody that makes chocolate puffs that have chocolate syrup in the inside. They hire the employees whose otherworldly ideas will sell and make more money,

On the other hand I disagree with the quote given by Bertrand Russell. The core subjects they teach us in school are necessities we need in everyday life. If we did not have school we would be like 2000 year old cavemen, with no knowledge or education. If you plan to start a career in agriculture and all falls apart you have your other school education to fall back upon. My mother was planning to go into agricultural business but she got married and had kids. She very well couldn’t have lived on a farm with all of her new family and make enough money to tend to them. My mother fell back on her previous medical training and is now a training to become a registered nurse. Another example is my aunt, she came out of high school and worked at an airport. When she wasn’t making enough money she fell back on her English major background and is now training to be an English teacher.

In conclusion I strongly believe that the school boards should change their lessons plans to where they encourage students to think outside of the box and get into the minds of how other people who put hidden and deep messages into the literature that they write, but they should also keep the knowledge people need to run their everyday life like English math and science, because most of the people who know what they want to do and how they are going to do it usually end up pursuing a career they never would have imagined themselves doing.

--Ryan Kimball
2008-10-03 01:31:29 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In this quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” Bertrand Russell is saying that education limits us(students) to think in certain ways.
I defiantly agree with Bertrand Russell. Education does limit us to think in a certain way and leads us believe certain things. For a about 12 years of a persons life is spent at school preparing you to become someone. A typical school year is spent studying, and learning in class. Most teaching methods are not hands-on which not only helps teach kids, but also let them form their own opinion about it, but is reading from a book and discussing what was read. Which leaves no room for creative thought.
What does Bertrand Russell mean by Saying education has become and obstacle to intelligence? Doesn’t becoming educated mean that you gain knowledge? Let me start with the first question; He’s saying students have no freedom of thought. It always been only “one right” answer to a question. Or sometime teacher give you the “well that could work but…”, but what? Teachers only want us to know and only want us to discuss the “one definite right” answer, but not the answer that could work. Why is this?
Doesn’t becoming educated mean that you gain knowledge? Yes becoming educated means that you gain knowledge, but not only do you gain but you also lose knowledge. For example; someone can place a standardize test in front of you and because someone has taught you the “right” answer, you can get a perfect score. This just tells you that you know how to pay attention and retain information, but say someone placed a test in front of you, with questions that force upon you to think for yourself, without using something you’ve learned. How would you do? Considering the fact that for your whole life someone has told you there is only “one right” answer.
Another example is, giving students a project and paper telling them how to do it. The teacher stressing the fact that they want them to be creative. So the students start the project, but you always have that one student who asks another student, “How are you doing yours, because I don’t think I’m doing it “right””. This shows a very big lack in creative thought.
Creativity can not be found just by telling students the “one right” answer, but by discussing the “that could work buts…”
~TraJian Morgan~
6th period
2008-10-03 01:39:49 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I believe that in this quote the author is talking about more than just how our education is everything we need but also that it’s our escape for freedom and independence.

The author is trying to persuade his readers that we should all get our education so we have the right to our own right and intelligence. Instead of others trying to control us and asking for simple things we should already know about.

Everyone should care about an education. As a student I think that education is my past, present, and future and it’s up to me to want to get it. My education is going to be the hardest obstacle because there are always going to be people to say you cannot become a doctor, lawyer, or maybe a model. But my education is the source to prove people wrong and that’s one hard obstacle to achieve. I believe everyone can get an education and succeed in it if they just try and apply it to everyday life. It can take one person to have an education but a wanting person goes after it and uses it to not only their knowledge but also others. If it was easy everyone would be a doctor and a lawyer. It just proves to show that education is something I believe everyone is going to want and need. That’s why most people who didn’t go to college after high school regret it and go back to school.

This quote will continue to influence others because it will stop them and have them think about why education is a source of a necessity for the human race. Then again people in foreign countries do not get the same opportunity as I do because they only go up to the 7th grade even if that. So as I get my education I should enjoy the ride now because what I want to do with my future is what I learn now.

Education also gives us the right to know that we don’t have to have others think for us and we have no say because we know of nothing that is going on in life. Education is also the source of everyday life because you have to read everywhere you go and education can supply that for you.
For example, when most teachers have us thing about what is right or wrong they are not letting us think outside the box. I feel the way the education system is not having us as students think logically and with common sense but with what the system tells them to teach and I think its straight nonsense. It’s nonsense because they want us to be creative but when they teach its like straight out the book so it’s like being hypocritical about the whole situation .

Freedom and intelligence are not just something that everyone wants but also needs because it gives us reason to live and want to do better in life not only for us but the following generation and our ancestors. I appreciate all that I am given and I thank my forefathers for all that they sacrificed just so I get have a better life than they did, have pride in myself, get treated the same, and get the same education and respect as any other nationality out there. So if it wasn’t for Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks I wouldn’t be able to say that I want to be a pediatrician and make my ancestors proud because making people look down at me and smile just to know that I am taking this opportunity as my life pleases them




--jazmine sheard 1st period
<mailto:redpuppy08@yahoo.com>
2008-10-03 01:41:35 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Russell shows the way he feels towards how education hinders freedom of thought and intelligence in his quote. Truthfully he made a good point, with today’s education system the educators (most of them) expect their students to go by exactly what they say with no comments or complaints. When educators do this most of the time their student(s) clearly do not understand what they are being taught. This in turn hinders the student from a higher education. If they don’t understand the basics in education it prohibits them from learning something else. When a student is taught to do something in a certain way (such as always working in a group) and then is told to change how they do it they tend to not be able to think for themselves. Education is truly one of the chief obstacles of intelligence and freedom of thought because, for example, in earlier times when people didn’t have the opportunity to go to school for an education and they basically taught themselves to do everything they had that freedom to learn for them and experience new things without someone telling them about it. Russell expressed in his quote that an education diminishes a person’s free will and opinion by denying them the possibility of experiencing the infinite amount of different answers and experiences in life. Russell understood that an education was sought by the public as a road to knowledge. However, on account of his conviction that an education is nothing but a roadblock to individuality, he called this a paradoxical fact. Teachers have mistakenly transformed students into thinking that there is always only one right answer, when really there is usually more than just one answer. In the real world there are various ways to answer or fix a problem. Therefore, his statement is about how standard education interferes with our train of thought. The education system of today hinders the students from thinking for themselves, which in turn, prohibits students from functioning efficiently in the real world or in higher classes of education. Some people, without the education we have, have made it with the little education they did have. People such as Bill Gates and Paul Allen are very successful without a full education. Many students at this time will agree with Bertrand and his quote. I believe some people could have accomplished or could be accomplishing bigger and better things if it weren’t for the impeding education system. Students that are encumbered by the system taking away freedom of speech and the ability to think for themselves could have achieved many other things, but since they can’t speak up and express themselves more freely they are hindered and cannot work at their full potential. In school all the students really need is the knowledge they get from the books provided but in the real world the equipment the education gives students is basically useless. When you think about it all you need is good vocabulary and know how to speak correctly, the ability to write legibly, and basic math skills to know how to provide for yourself financially.
On the plus side, the education system has to offer many different things. The education system teaches us how to think on a higher level as well. Now days in order to get a good job you must have at least a high school education if not an education from college/university. To have a basic education is not enough anymore. Because of the recent discoveries and more knowledge of our world we have obtained there are many more benefits. For example, our medical workers have to go to school and get certified in order to do their job. As the years progress and we discover new cures and medications for diseases we can better our health and maybe find a way to live longer. That’s a fact that is contradicting what Bertrand Russell states in his quote.

Akilah Grubbs
1st period
2008-10-03 01:55:46 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In this quote Bertrand Russell is stating that while in school we are not getting the adequate information needed to think for ourselves and to have our own opinions. Russell is hinting that us as students are being deprived of having our own opinion and defending it. However, to survive in this new and improved world we need true intelligence and freedom of thought . We are being brainwashed to think that book smarts is all you need to get somewhere in life, but many don’t know that there’s way more to it.
I feel this quote relates to me in many ways in life today. Through education we learn a lot of necessary information that develops to better understanding of the world and what makes it go round, But what I see is a lack of free thinking and true intelligence. I feel pressured when it’s time for standardized test. I’m told you “ You either pass this test or be held back, and I feel that this isn’t fair. We are being faced with the belief that what’s being taught in school is all you need to know, and that these are all the answers to life, but its not. We are being deprived of the choice to question the textbook or say “well I believe differently” because apparently we are in the wrong. I feel the TAKS shouldn’t determine the fate or future of a student, base solely on the thought that people think just because the school board is supreme in education what they say is always golden and everyone else’s opinion on what is needed for us students to succeed in life is not worth listening to. Many teachers think that what they’re doing for us will help us succeed and be better people , and part of that statement is true. Yet, some of the criteria we learn is purposeless if the career you choose to pursue one day doesn’t call for those skills. This is the reason I think us as students should be able to pick our own careers before we learn unnecessary information, like other kids around the world.
Many people should care about this topic for many reasons. One day we will be the adults leading and making decisions for this country and without any progression in intelligence we won’t be able to fulfill those duties. We will be stuck in the middle of nowhere because we cannot recall our own opinions and beliefs., because we don’t have them. We are going to be basing our opinion off of what somebody else thinks, because we haven’t been taught to think freely or openly about things. We are being taught in this day and age to stick to that one “correct answer”, but little do our naive minds know that there is not always one “correct answer“. With life there isn’t always a book to study and memorize to help you to understand the things going on around you, so you do need all of the true intelligence, free thoughts, and common sense you can get. I believe that you should follow your heart and be able to think freely about any thing in life, and even though what some people think what you’re saying is insane, don’t hesitate to follow your heart and take advantage of your freedom of thought. Without the knowledge about yourself, others, and the world around you, you will be haunted with the doubts and questions that you never had the freedom to answer.
--Chastity McLean per.3
2008-10-03 01:57:17 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The Quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.
--Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)

In this quote Bertrand Russell is saying that Education is a good thing or a big waist of your time.
Russell is saying that education is good becasue without it we would be nothing. Then again it could be a waist of our time. For example if we want to become a mechanic then we shouln't be taking English or Science.
Then again there might have beeen a different part to there time. Like between 1872 and 1970 there was things such as Muybridge photographs were invented, which changed commision. The telephone was invented. There was also big things like world war 1 and 2 which changed peoples lifes and our population. HUGLY! Then there was the Veitnam war which also changed peoples life. Through out all of those years thongs have changed and we all need to agree with this quote, because this also needs to change.
Now on with the quote I think that the quote means that he wnats the education to go on, but we need to only take the classes that we need for our future job. I think that we all need to take all of the regular classes our freshman year and in all the younger grades. Then when we get to High School in the tenth grade then we should be able to actually take the classes and not all these regular classes like health when we know that we took all those classes in our younger classes. pretty much that's just messed up and I agree with this quote because I do believe that we should be able to take OUR classes not Yall's classes!! Whcih brings me to my next piont. If we, us students havet o listen to some of the most waistful information then we should be able to have freedom of thought, oppinion, and personal methods or whatever we pretty much want!(not Really).
So the quote WE are faced wiht the paradoxical facts that education hes become one of the cheif obstacles to intelligance and freedom of thought. By Bertrand Russell(1872-1970) Still affects and still goes along with our life THIS DAY!!
*****Brittany Davis*****

--brittany davis
<mailto:longhorn4594@yahoo.com>
2008-10-03 01:59:28 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Russell shows the way he feels towards how education hinders freedom of thought and intelligence in his quote. Truthfully he made a good point, with today’s education system the educators (most of them) expect their students to go by exactly what they say with no comments or complaints. When educators do this most of the time their student(s) clearly do not understand what they are being taught. This in turn hinders the student from a higher education. If they don’t understand the basics in education it prohibits them from learning something else. When a student is taught to do something in a certain way (such as always working in a group) and then is told to change how they do it they tend to not be able to think for themselves. Education is truly one of the chief obstacles of intelligence and freedom of thought because, for example, in earlier times when people didn’t have the opportunity to go to school for an education and they basically taught themselves to do everything they had that freedom to learn for them and experience new things without someone telling them about it. Russell expressed in his quote that an education diminishes a person’s free will and opinion by denying them the possibility of experiencing the infinite amount of different answers and experiences in life. Russell understood that an education was sought by the public as a road to knowledge. However, on account of his conviction that an education is nothing but a roadblock to individuality, he called this a paradoxical fact. Teachers have mistakenly transformed students into thinking that there is always only one right answer, when really there is usually more than just one answer. In the real world there are various ways to answer or fix a problem. Therefore, his statement is about how standard education interferes with our train of thought. The education system of today hinders the students from thinking for themselves, which in turn, prohibits students from functioning efficiently in the real world or in higher classes of education. Some people, without the education we have, have made it with the little education they did have. People such as Bill Gates and Paul Allen are very successful without a full education. Many students at this time will agree with Bertrand and his quote. I believe some people could have accomplished or could be accomplishing bigger and better things if it weren’t for the impeding education system. Students that are encumbered by the system taking away freedom of speech and the ability to think for themselves could have achieved many other things, but since they can’t speak up and express themselves more freely they are hindered and cannot work at their full potential. In school all the students really need is the knowledge they get from the books provided but in the real world the equipment the education gives students is basically useless. When you think about it all you need is good vocabulary and know how to speak correctly, the ability to write legibly, and basic math skills to know how to provide for yourself financially.
On the plus side, the education system has to offer many different things. The education system teaches us how to think on a higher level as well. Now days in order to get a good job you must have at least a high school education if not an education from college/university. To have a basic education is not enough anymore. Because of the recent discoveries and more knowledge of our world we have obtained there are many more benefits. For example, our medical workers have to go to school and get certified in order to do their job. As the years progress and we discover new cures and medications for diseases we can better our health and maybe find a way to live longer. That’s a fact that is contradicting what Bertrand Russell states in his quote.
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Akilah Grubbs
1st period
2008-10-03 01:59:56 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote is saying that we were taught to learn and think a certain way and that was way the only right way. When that is true with our current education system, we were taught that way. When I think that isn't the right way to be taught. We should be allowed to think and learn the way that best benefits us not the way that the school system has set out for us because often that way deprives us from higher ways of thinking. We as students shouldn't be taught in such a manner that limits us from what we are able to do.
Russell says freedom and intelligence is the key in a good education and that is true. We need freedom in what we think and we don't have that. We are told how to think and learn stuff and if we do different we told we're wrong. When that is not true because not all questions have one answer. Our opinions should matter and at times it doesn't. So after hearing it so many times we ourselves begin to believe that we're wrong and its hard to bounce back after being taught for so long that the way you think is wrong. Thats why I second guess myself when I answer questions because I say what I believe then go wait one teacher said this and that so am i right and then I don't end up answering the question because of fear of being told my opinion is wrong. This year in this class I've learned in order to do well is to think outside the box, form a good opinion and stand up for what i think and defend it. Its all because of what we've been told to think and what we've been told is right to do. I don't think its even fair for us students to get taught those type of things because it takes away of things we capable of learning in a way that benefits us. Hopefully someone will change realize this and make some changes so kids in the future will not suffer from this.
Arianna C.
4th Pd.
2008-10-03 02:08:51 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell was voicing his opinion on the educational system. I believe he saying that a Childs education is being road blocked by our education providers. How ever i do not have a clue as to why he would say that, since i was not apart of that time era i cant not speak so blindly to the fact. Although i can not speak for Mr. Russell i can voice what i think he is saying the main issue in education is that the children are unable to express themselves, nor there thought freely.

Kids are basically forced to be seated in a classroom and listen to a teacher talk about a specific subject. Being bound down and criticized for any sign of outward thinking, children learn to equip themselves to the nature of the classroom enviroment."Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts.” said by Henry Brooke Adams, his quote is basically feeding on to the fact that Russell was trying to make. A teachers curriculum never changes it is the same old thing, it never varies. The student mind is so rapped around the fact that they must listen to pass, they forget to think about what there learning.

From an early age kids are taught that they will be tested in life and that what they learn in a classroom is important to life. That is not entirely true, what a child is taught in a classroom is there to provide the necessities that the will need later on to choose a career in life. Those kinds of things are the least of there problems, exploring different parts the world and how it runs can better prepare kids for the near future.” Teaching is not a lost art, but the regard for it is a lost tradition” Jacques Martin Barzun, the way he was taught has changed, and the way of teaching have changed. Barzun is saying that education is taught but not honestly.

I am not honestly sure about his learning styles, but as of now i would have to disagree with Russell.Why? Our education system is still build up around the basis of Knowledge, and what we must know. I do disagree with having to take test that analyze my memory, capability to pass or fail. Everyone learns at a different paste and with a set amount of time to learn it is not correct. But assignments such as the ones Ms.Broussard gives allow us to voice our opinions, thoughts, and ideas.

--keyahna hobbs
2008-10-03 02:10:16 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In response to this quote, I believe we should start with the definition of a paradox. According to dictionary.com, a paradox is a statement or proposition that seems self-contradictory or absurd but in reality expresses a possible truth. With this in mind, I looked at Bertrand Russell’s background to see why he might have felt this way. Russell was born to very liberal parents (for their time) and ended up being of the same mind when he grew up. He was a pacifist and a great advocate of free thought and was “dismissed” from several teaching positions because of his opinions on morality. His life spanned 97 years and he lived through 2 World Wars and the start of the Vietnam conflict. In searching for information on why Bertrand would feel that “education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought”, I came across the book that this quote originally came from. The book is Free Thought and Official Propaganda. In this book is a section that discusses Russell’s opinion on education. In the book he criticized the idea that history books only provide one country’s viewpoint of events and in that viewpoint glorify themselves instead of basing their books on factual accounts of those events. He also stated that education had two purposes. One was to give the student information and another was to teach them to make their own opinions. He also stated that most countries were good at the first part but not at the second because once people begin to think for themselves they became troublesome and difficult for the government to deal with. So education to him was a paradox because it gave people information but did not encourage them to use it intelligently to form their own opinions.
For the most part, I would have to agree with this statement. Most of our school career has been centered around the knowledge we need to pass a test, namely the TAKS test. There’s not much time spent on the idea of creative thinking. I’ve always viewed it along the lines of cramming for a test the night before. You memorize the information for one purpose but never use it much beyond that. For me, there are very few classes I’ve had to this point in my education that have encouraged me to think differently or form my own opinions. In fact, I have seen that when you do come up with a new or different way of doing something, teachers often shoot it down because it doesn’t follow the standard method. A perfect example of this would be my little sister. She figured out her own way of borrowing with 2-digit numbers in math before she was ever taught how to in class. She understood place value and the use of negative numbers from watching me do my homework and used it to create her own method of borrowing. It worked and made sense to her. But when they got to borrowing in her class, her teacher insisted that she do it the “right” way, even though it confused her because she didn’t think like that. She was forced to conform to the expectations and limitations of her teacher. It seems that all most teachers want you to do is sit down, be quiet and follow the rules. If you have a different opinion then you’re either ignored or labeled a troublemaker, depending on how loudly you voice that opinion. It’s like that line from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” – “We don’t need no education, we don’t need no thought control”. If all education is for is to make us memorize facts and make us think “their” way, then what’s the point?
So what do we do? My first suggestion; quit teaching to a test or better yet, get rid of it. Let students prove their worth through their actions and products, not how they do on a test once a year. The weight they put on that test stresses out kids and teachers alike. Also, quit telling students that it has to be done a certain way. If they can do it another way and prove that it works, then that should be acceptable. Many things in life involve being able to think outside the box, to fi
2008-10-03 02:11:43 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In response to this quote, I believe we should start with the definition of a paradox. According to dictionary.com, a paradox is a statement or proposition that seems self-contradictory or absurd but in reality expresses a possible truth. With this in mind, I looked at Bertrand Russell’s background to see why he might have felt this way. Russell was born to very liberal parents (for their time) and ended up being of the same mind when he grew up. He was a pacifist and a great advocate of free thought and was “dismissed” from several teaching positions because of his opinions on morality. His life spanned 97 years and he lived through 2 World Wars and the start of the Vietnam conflict. In searching for information on why Bertrand would feel that “education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought”, I came across the book that this quote originally came from. The book is Free Thought and Official Propaganda. In this book is a section that discusses Russell’s opinion on education. In the book he criticized the idea that history books only provide one country’s viewpoint of events and in that viewpoint glorify themselves instead of basing their books on factual accounts of those events. He also stated that education had two purposes. One was to give the student information and another was to teach them to make their own opinions. He also stated that most countries were good at the first part but not at the second because once people begin to think for themselves they became troublesome and difficult for the government to deal with. So education to him was a paradox because it gave people information but did not encourage them to use it intelligently to form their own opinions.
For the most part, I would have to agree with this statement. Most of our school career has been centered around the knowledge we need to pass a test, namely the TAKS test. There’s not much time spent on the idea of creative thinking. I’ve always viewed it along the lines of cramming for a test the night before. You memorize the information for one purpose but never use it much beyond that. For me, there are very few classes I’ve had to this point in my education that have encouraged me to think differently or form my own opinions. In fact, I have seen that when you do come up with a new or different way of doing something, teachers often shoot it down because it doesn’t follow the standard method. A perfect example of this would be my little sister. She figured out her own way of borrowing with 2-digit numbers in math before she was ever taught how to in class. She understood place value and the use of negative numbers from watching me do my homework and used it to create her own method of borrowing. It worked and made sense to her. But when they got to borrowing in her class, her teacher insisted that she do it the “right” way, even though it confused her because she didn’t think like that. She was forced to conform to the expectations and limitations of her teacher. It seems that all most teachers want you to do is sit down, be quiet and follow the rules. If you have a different opinion then you’re either ignored or labeled a troublemaker, depending on how loudly you voice that opinion. It’s like that line from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” – “We don’t need no education, we don’t need no thought control”. If all education is for is to make us memorize facts and make us think “their” way, then what’s the point?
So what do we do? My first suggestion; quit teaching to a test or better yet, get rid of it. Let students prove their worth through their actions and products, not how they do on a test once a year. The weight they put on that test stresses out kids and teachers alike. Also, quit telling students that it has to be done a certain way. If they can do it another way and prove that it works, then that should be acceptable. Many things in life involve being able to think outside the box, to fi
2008-10-03 02:12:38 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Many things in life involve being able to think outside the box, to find a new solution. If we are to solve some of our global problems, then we need new ideas and people who have been allowed the freedom to think for themselves and have been encouraged to create and have new ideas.
- Ian Osborn (3rd Period)
(oops....it cut off the last part)
2008-10-03 02:13:58 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Education has contributed a major role in our everyday lives and society ever since the early 1800’s, when the public school system was introduced to the United States. Bertrand Russell stated, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” I’m bewildered at the fact that Russell stated this, because he was a British philosopher, mathematician, historian, logician, and a pacifist. Perhaps because he did have an education and a high state of mind is why he believed this. As to why he said this, we may not ever know. In some ways I concur with Russell for the motive that we have been taught that there is always a “right answer.” For example, the TAKS test has a variety of questions that are multiple choice, but there is only one answer that is correct. Having no say in what we are acquired to do, we still have to take this test in order to pass on to the next grade level, or to graduate. This is unreasonable, and in my way of seeing it, it has no point what so ever. This test is basically telling us that no matter how hard we have worked in our school year, and how hard we have studied, it is not good enough to go on to the next grade. We have all been taught to think like robots, and not to think for ourselves because of the way that the school system is arranged. For us that are still in school, are faced with the same routine every single day…we go to school and are all asked certain questions, which once again I say, have the only one correct answer. This year, in my English class, I have been having problems for the fact, which I’m not used to expressing my own opinion. In the past, my opinion was not acknowledged, or thought to be important; I was taught that there is only one correct way things were done. Also, before education was introduced to the United States certain inventions were made, like the light bulb, made by Thomas Edison. It took Thomas over one-hundred times to get how to make a light bulb function like he wanted it to function. He didn’t give up, instead he used his mind and he improved how to make the light bulb work correctly. Edison didn’t need an education, he used his freedom of thought to keep on trying and trying until he finally got the light bulb to work.
Although the school system has this fault, it has helped build the technology and lifestyle that we all love and enjoy today. It is believed that without a good education you don’t have a good future for yourself, but an average lifestyle. It is proven that most high school drop outs only have an opportunity to have lower paying jobs than the students that graduate. Education does play a major role in our lives daily, and it helped us get where we are today. If it wasn’t for our education we wouldn’t have modern day technology like cell phones, internet, computers, and the other things that we enjoy having in our lives. It has also helped us in our ways of living longer and healthier lives. For example, doctors and dentists have helped us stay healthy by using certain antidotes. They have to know how and when to apply an antidote, and where to apply it at a certain time. As you can see, without an education, we wouldn’t be as healthy, and we wouldn’t have half the entertainment that we have today. We also have sex education in school, which has helped us youth think about what we are doing, and the consequences we have if we have sex. There are many ways in which education has helped us today, but there is the flaw in the school system that doesn’t allow us to express our freedom of thought.
2008-10-03 02:25:11 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is saying that we have been under the false proposition that education has become one of the main preventions to intelligence and our freedom of thought. So really he is disagreeing with this saying that education is the best thing that has happened to the world and is the pathway to intelligence and can relate to freedom of thought. Why he is saying this is because, education can give you a lot of opportunities in life and help you far and beyond. Back then there were not a lot of schools for people to learn in and most people could not afford to go to school by either not having enough money or had to work at a young age. He is saying life has much to offer and you can learn to survive life and the world out there with your education.
I partially disagree with him but mostly agree with him in many ways. I disagree with him because education is not the only thing in life and it is sort of preventing us to speak our mind and explore our own intelligence of what we know. School and education is like putting a stop on our personality and our freedom of thought. For example we have been taught always that there is only one answer and what ever you think it is wrong because it’s not what the book says or what the teacher says and you have your own opinion but you can’t express it. Freedom of thought means you can think and have your opinion of things without having to have the discrepancy of another and their thought of what is right. If you are taught there is only one answer to every question then you don’t have the freedom of thought to debate against the “book’s” answer which could really be a scientist’s or a really smart guys opinion.
Agreeing is something I can also do with Bertrand Russell’s quote. You need education because the whole world now is based off of education, jobs, and money. Without education you could be working at places like McDonalds and really any other kind of fast food places, but sometimes you might even need high school credits in some places while others you don’t. Lots of other big manufacturing systems and big working jobs require you have a degree, a bachelor’s degree or have already finished college. For example you have to have a Bachelor of Science (BS) degree in Mechanical Engineering to have a Mechanical engineering career and to be a doctor you have to start with a bachelors degree, then get your masters degree and then your PHD. College is major in the United States and most of the different colleges are expecting different education and knowledge. Now we know that education can earn you a chance to get a good job with good money and you won’t find yourself in the situation where you don’t have education and wish you did.
Most countries don’t get or have the opportunity to learn anything and need education and schools there. Bertrand Russell is right in a way because it is true and people don’t appreciate education while others need it. You don’t need it (well really you do) but I would rather have education and know it really good instead of not having it.
For being a chief obstacle it is not that major and you only think it is a chief obstacle if you don’t want to try and is not into education and learning which will help you in the long run.


Taylor Barquet
4th Period
2008-10-03 02:46:11 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell’s quote, he states how education in an obstacle to intelligence and freedom of thought. That makes me wonder, is education actually helping or hurting us? Is education too restricting? Will education it let us have a mind of our own?
What defines an educated person? Is it the number of college degrees they obtain? How successful a person’s career is, or if a person is high class or middle class? Currently in the music business there are many artist that have conquered the music world with their creativity. Yet, many of these entertainers have not pursued a degree in business, fine arts or public speaking. Many of these artists do not have degrees outside of a high school diploma, yet they have a better paying job and a higher standard of living than most people with bachelor’s degrees. One very famous “non educated” person is Bill Gates. He is the richest man in America, yet he did not graduate from high school. Yes he dropped out! He made money by inventing Microsoft software, which is used by many business corporations. He accomplished this while still in his teens, and with out a college degree. Therefore it is safe to state that an education degree is not the only thing that guarantees a successful future. America thrives on people’s dreams, perseverance, sweat, and determination. If all of the above are applied, you might not need an education to become successful.
It has been drilled into our heads that the only way to become successful is to go to college right after high school and find a good high paying, rewarding career. While we sit in the classroom and are told what to think, what to do, and how to do it. Our creativity gets stripped away slowly. We don’t miss it because we are taught to a test, or required to perform in a very specific way. The teachers themselves no longer allow creativity, because they do not know how to measure such creativity.
The TAG program is the best way to express your creativity, yet all of the TAG facilitators are no longer there for the elementary students. In my perspective, the TAG program is no longer for creativity, yet they base their test highly on creativity. I was in the TAG program in the elementary school only because I scored so high on creativity points, yet I was expected to perform well in all of the subjects solely due to my enrolment in the TAG program. I’m not the most intelligent person in my age group. I struggle with certain subjects regardless of my TAG status, yet my teachers had high expectations for me to meet regardless of my knowledge and understanding of that subject. I am forced to meet those high expectations the teachers set for me. They just brushed it off by saying, “ You’re in TAG, you should know this.” I find my creativity is stifled, and I’m not able to express myself in a way that will allow me to bloom.
Young children, before they enter school, have a great imagination and untapped creativity. Nobody is telling them what to think or what is the difference between right or wrong, fact or fiction. The have a great working imagination station. Studies show that when a child starts kindergarten, their creativity slowly stops. They start getting told what is right and wrong, fact and fiction. The children start getting an idea of what the real world is and lose the creativity and imagination they once had.
They begin to conform into what their teachers and parents believe they should become now that they are in school. Society plays a big role in the way little boys and girls should behave. This is because of gender bias. Boys are expected to be tough. Their misbehavior is brushed off by the belief of boys will be boys. This can also stop the active imagination station of why they can’t do that and what is so wrong about expressing themselves. This limits their freedom of thought. I believe that the education system with its rules and regulations slowly strip away our creativity and freedom of thought.

2008-10-03 02:54:57 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Russell’s’ quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought” is stating the truth form begin to end. I think that Russell is trying to say that education holds people back from a having a freedom of thought. Education is something that you need in order to be successful and without and education you will be at McDonalds flipping burgers.
I also think that Russell is trying to say that your education should depend on what you want from your life we have been told to focus on core classes and not our electives classes. For example, special education students might be in a remedial class because they failed the Taks test and a regular class but they can’t focus because they want to be in an art class. The teacher keeps repeatedly telling the student to pay attention, but the student can’t because they don’t have a free class to relax in.
We are taught from pre kindergarten that we should follow the rules and teachers know what the best is for you. Not following the rules is what helped billionaires Bill Gates and Garth Brooks be who they are known to be. If these two had followed the rules, Bill would be working at Ford and Garth would most likely be real estate agent. Going outside the normal is not taught and rarely even encouraged. Students rarely have anything in their education until they are so far a long that it seems irrational to quit. Elementary school is regulated by the Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills Test. Middle School is run by the results of the previous test scores. High School puts pressure on parents who pressure student into “what is right” to take for college. College decisions are hormone and ideal based until we are old enough to make sound decisions. Many times we have been taught by a test so many times that when we have to write papers that have no answers we just lose it.
Your education should depend on what you want. Not from what the test answers are or what the teachers and parents think you should take. Your education should be based on what you want to get out of your life. You should be able to make your own decisions and learn the mistakes yourself not from want other people do. For example, if you want to be an artist and your parents want you to be a doctor. You should be able to make the choice of what you want to be.
Education has been no chose for most kids. Our parents have imprinted that education is a must. You can’t even get a job without going to college. We have to go to college. We have to make good grades in order to go to college. But in high school, the teachers stop teaching from a test or book. They start saying “that there is no right answer to this question.”
Like I discussed in class today, we have always been told the right answer. But in many of my freshman classes I have been told that there is no answer. I have always been the student that knew the answer or knew how to get the answer. Now I am required to think outside the box when for so many years I have been sheltered inside the box. I have had difficulty adjusting to this way of thinking, but due to the requirements of further education required by society I will survive.
WC: 600

--Caitlin Lay
2008-10-03 02:55:36 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell’s quote, he states how education in an obstacle to intelligence and freedom of thought. That makes me wonder, is education actually helping or hurting us? Is education too restricting? Will education it let us have a mind of our own?
What defines an educated person? Is it the number of college degrees they obtain? How successful a person’s career is, or if a person is high class or middle class? Currently in the music business there are many artist that have conquered the music world with their creativity. Yet, many of these entertainers have not pursued a degree in business, fine arts or public speaking. Many of these artists do not have degrees outside of a high school diploma, yet they have a better paying job and a higher standard of living than most people with bachelor’s degrees. One very famous “non educated” person is Bill Gates. He is the richest man in America, yet he did not graduate from high school. Yes he dropped out! He made money by inventing Microsoft software, which is used by many business corporations. He accomplished this while still in his teens, and with out a college degree. Therefore it is safe to state that an education degree is not the only thing that guarantees a successful future. America thrives on people’s dreams, perseverance, sweat, and determination. If all of the above are applied, you might not need an education to become successful.
It has been drilled into our heads that the only way to become successful is to go to college right after high school and find a good high paying, rewarding career. While we sit in the classroom and are told what to think, what to do, and how to do it. Our creativity gets stripped away slowly. We don’t miss it because we are taught to a test, or required to perform in a very specific way. The teachers themselves no longer allow creativity, because they do not know how to measure such creativity.
The TAG program is the best way to express your creativity, yet all of the TAG facilitators are no longer there for the elementary students. In my perspective, the TAG program is no longer for creativity, yet they base their test highly on creativity. I was in the TAG program in the elementary school only because I scored so high on creativity points, yet I was expected to perform well in all of the subjects solely due to my enrolment in the TAG program. I’m not the most intelligent person in my age group. I struggle with certain subjects regardless of my TAG status, yet my teachers had high expectations for me to meet regardless of my knowledge and understanding of that subject. I am forced to meet those high expectations the teachers set for me. They just brushed it off by saying, “ You’re in TAG, you should know this.” I find my creativity is stifled, and I’m not able to express myself in a way that will allow me to bloom.
Young children, before they enter school, have a great imagination and untapped creativity. Nobody is telling them what to think or what is the difference between right or wrong, fact or fiction. The have a great working imagination station. Studies show that when a child starts kindergarten, their creativity slowly stops. They start getting told what is right and wrong, fact and fiction. The children start getting an idea of what the real world is and lose the creativity and imagination they once had.
They begin to conform into what their teachers and parents believe they should become now that they are in school. Society plays a big role in the way little boys and girls should behave. This is because of gender bias. Boys are expected to be tough. Their misbehavior is brushed off by the belief of boys will be boys. This can also stop the active imagination station of why they can’t do that and what is so wrong about expressing themselves. This limits their freedom of thought. I believe that the education system with its rules and regulations slowly strip away our creativity and freedom of thought.


--Elisa Gomez Pd. 1
2008-10-03 02:56:41 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Education was thought to make us more intelligent and think more and become more creative, but sometimes that is not the case. This statement is telling us that it is a paradox because the two ideas contradicted each other. it is saying that education can actually disadvantage us in are creativeness and hinder are thinking into one thought.
Creativity is not learned through a one step process, creativity is learning to make new. For example there are people out there who make beautiful murals of paintings that start from their mind and nothing else maybe not even schooling, not even the environment around them, but there are many other people who can’t even comprehend how to make this who can’t draw the detailed branches on the tree or even the clouds in the sky, some people it comes natural. Nobody is the same, nobody can think the things exactly how you think all the time and a lot of the times these new ideas come to place and things like the light bulb is created.

Creativity can be hindered though when someone says that there idea is better than yours or that the idea is stupid then you can get discouraged and follow the rules that you think are acceptable and only go one way. Things don’t always have to be one way there are other ways that it can be done. People also have the ability to think sameness is boring and there are other ways for this to be better. There are other ways of doing anything no matter how weird it is.
Education although can sometimes prevent us from innovation. Innovation is when humans advance is technology to meet their needs. Innovation including the cell phone, no one taught the guy who first made it how to make a cell phone because the fact is he was thinking there is an easier way to do this, this could be done handheld. Sometimes though people will not care and will follow whatever not thinking more then what the easiest way to do this.
I think the quote is both agreeable and disagreeable. I think that education is a great thing, without education we wouldn’t have advanced technology such as computers or cell phones, but education has become standardized clogging our brains to think nothing more than about the mainstream, I think some things like money can destroy our creativeness. One may be less inclined to be creative due to the fact that they can buy anything materialistic. Most people who have invented important things did not start rich but had an idea. You must also learn from the mistakes of others and that’s where education comes in, this is why things like history are important. Our education teaches us not to question the facts because it is what it is.
It is not only about the education it is about the teacher. There can be teachers who teach you the straight facts this is how it is and do not question me. Sometimes teachers can be intimidating to their students, a student might not want to raise her hand because the teacher may often be negative. The teachers who teach their students that there are other ways of doing things rather than just this way can have creative students. While the teachers who tell their students that there is only one train of thought that you should ride on students often don’t get off that train to explore the unexplored.
Although our education can have some crippling points, it’s mostly great because most of the teachers don’t stunt creativity, but encourage it.

--Cristina Rivera
2008-10-03 02:56:45 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought. ~Bertrand Russell

I think the writer is telling us that the educational system is one of the problems some students can’t think for themselves. Well I think this statement is true because if you observe most of the student in other schools you might see one or two students that try to act out, that is their way of trying to think freely. Most of America’s brilliant scientist like Albert Einstein learned most of his knowledge by himself. I have learned to think for myself than let the educational system decide for me.
In Germany they have a lot of grades in the educational system I think it’s like three stages. The first stages are like first through twelfth grade and that gets you a job at some fast food restaurant as an employee. The second stages are like some other grades and that lands you a job as manager of a fast food restaurant which I wouldn’t like at all and you might not like it either. Well the last stage is the third stage which consists of some other classes or grades and if you pass you may become an owner of restaurants across continents or the world.
I would be concerned about the educational system trying to limit my knowledge because I would like to have a lot more knowledge, to learn about new and old facts, and be able to absorb and contain that knowledge. The issues at hand are that most of the students are making it harder for themselves to decide and learn everything they can. They should be able to speak their mind and not be criticized; they should know that there is no limit to how much they can learn.
Well some students have figured out how to think outside the box and not get into trouble. If the students that get into trouble because of the educational system, try to think out side the box or for them selves and for the right reasons, then some schools may have a diminution of bad behavior from students.
I think Russell is speaking the truth about education because there are some students that look at their work they have to complete and say “I can’t do it “. I have heard this before in some classes that aren’t even that hard, but the difficulty of those classes is my opinion. But I believe if they did not force the educational system on these students then there would probably be more students that are confident in themselves and their work. The schools might have higher grade averages and better test scores if the students were more confident. By helping the students be more confident in themselves and their work, we can kill two birds with one stone because with confident there is determination which means if they are confident then they will be determined to do their work correctly and with determination there is the chance to expand their own knowledge. With that said we have are solution for an intelligent, confident, and more efficient generation. In having a confident and more intelligent generation the new generation will already have the acquirements or knowledge to make better choices than this old generation in the future.
And even though Bertrand Russell was living in a different century he must have been saying this to the future generations so they can find a solution to overcome this obstacle and prepare the next generation for the future to come.

-- Joshua Balls 3rd period
2008-10-03 03:11:55 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell’s quote, “we are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought”, is essentially saying that our system of education teaches students one answer to everything which causes the students [us] to be unable to form our on opinion. I agree for the most part with Russell because we should be able to express what we think but also be certain we know the answers that are required to know by the education system. To make it in the real world and be stable we have to have a job but most jobs require you to be a college graduate and to get there we need to have freedom of thought. We are in competition with everyone when it comes to college and employment, but most employers nod institutions of higher learning want free thinkers those who can work both in and out of the box. Unfortunately the statement Russell makes speaks honestly about how our education system forbids our individual thinking, therefore stunting our ability to see and discover our own truths.
An example demonstrating the accuracy of Russell’s quote can be found in how science teaches that the earth is formed by evolution, but most children are taught in their home that the earth was formed by God. In school we can’t say we think God created the earth because the system of education suspects this will create conflict between the students of different religions. I know I believe God created the earth but in school on a test if they ask me how was the earth formed, I would put the book answer [evolution] because if I put God they would say “true but the book says…..” ,and I would get the question wrong. Yet I must conflict my own judgment in giving the “systemic” answer, so I am to deny my own thought process and values taught at home?
Another strategic example is Black History month. Some schools don’t even treat this month any different that the month of April. To me this month is more important than Valentines Day, homecoming week, Halloween, and St.patricks day. They sells flowers and candy grams on valentines day, for homecoming week, on each day we dress different , on Halloween they give out candy, And on St. Patrick’s day they tell us to were all green. What do we do on black history month? Nothing! A lot of schools don’t even teach anything about black history, and if they do decide to tell us something about it it’s a brief fact about martin Luther king or Rosa parks, never anything about another African American catalyst. I feel as though everyone knows these people and we don’t have the right to speak out and say “HEY we need to learn more about black history and not just about slaves or segregation”. We are taught history in a slanted way that only highlights the achievements of the Anglo-Saxon population; we know nothing of the Latin contributions, African American Heros or other ethnicities. Why is that? I feel strongly it is representative of Russell’s statement.
Finally Russell’s statement can be proven again through the lack of equal education provided during segregation. The education system at that time felt people learned based on their color and ethnic race VS their personal intelligence. When African Americans were first given the right to vote they had to be considered literate at the standard of the Board of education, many African Americans could not read/write due to economics, unequal education opportunities as well fear of retaliation. In history we can see where this lack of standardized education has led to generational poverty and illiteracy. It would seem to some that education or the lack thereof would be the downfall of many, which is why many choose to home school their families.
-Arielle Mclean [homie]
(i totally heart mrs.b=])
2008-10-03 03:28:31 GMT
Author:Anonymous
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2008-10-03 03:30:06 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The point that is brought up in Bertrand Russell’s quote is a very important argument. Personally I am in agreement with what he has said. Although school is an important part of any child’s life, consuming a grand total of about twenty-two years or more, today’s education is only required to teach the standards. Any person going through school in the twenty-first century is taught the basics for survival in the society that we have created, and is lucky to achieve a higher level of success in their later years.
A great amount of emphasis is put on children getting a “proper” education. It has become a law that children living in the United States have to attend school until at least the age of seventeen unless extenuating circumstances exist, such as home-based schooling. They are also required to attend school for a certain number of hours during the course of a school year as specified in section two, article 22-33-104. Compulsory school attendance of Senate bill 06-073. In spite of the laws and regulations implemented no child is actually receiving a “proper” education.
With the instatement of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, or NCLB, all states are required to create criterion for students to be tested at certain grade levels, if that state wishes to receive federal funding for its schools. This in its self takes away freedom of thought and hampers the intelligence of participants of the education system, namely the students. The standards set by individual states only allows teachers to teach the basics of any one concept due to the time limitations set by the criteria of that school year’s standards, and prevent the in depth explanation of the area that many students need and/or want.
Although all of what was stated previously is a key part of what makes the “… paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” as said by Bertrand Russell. The biggest hindrance is the standardized tests that were instated in compliance with NLCB. These test and their advocates cause any student that fails them a great amount of grief. They are either subjected to remediation or held back depending on the state. This is what makes the education of students more like a factory assembly line than an artisan workshop. Each student is taught the same thing like all the others who passed through before and will pass through after them then pushed off to the next stage of assembly rather than being hand-crafted to be unique with their own opinions and characteristics. This key difference in the styles of teaching is what makes Bertrand Russell’s quote relevant to our educational system.
The fact of the matter is that education is an important aspect of life but, becomes useless and destructive if it cannot promote “true” intelligence and freedom of thought. Until education is treated more like a practice in which each consumer is treated specially to meet their needs. Instead of like a competition in which only the best are trained as hard as they should be in order to win, education can never be what it is truly meant to. That is a caring environment in which all children are nourished to be the best that they can be. The standards in place now need to be abolished in order for our educational system and society to prosper. However, as long as those who see education in a competitive way remain in power this change will never happen. Someone who has seen what education is and is truly meant to be is the only one who can bring about these changes.


--Darius Tolbert :D!
<mailto:dr.tolbert@yahoo.com>
2008-10-03 03:43:06 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Mr. Russell is saying that by going to school, we are limiting ourselves from the learning experiences we would originally make if the education was not there. By going to get an education we are learning from other people’s hypotheses and experiences when everyone has a different experience. So in teaching, they assume that all kids learn the same when there are visual and hearing learners. Which means that in assuming that we are all the same we do not get the full capacity of knowledge that they force down our throats. With the education today they get us ready for what we need to know in the business world. When a lot may become, say gardeners or something else, we either need to get other peoples results or we can test and fail our own when we may have found something even better than the other person because we took the liberty of doing it on our own. If we don’t have the choice to do things on our own then we are effectively, clay people made the same but with different personalities.
I agree with Bertrand because if someone were to go explore the world, they would have different philosophies of how to view life rather than a person who experienced the world through images and text on a piece of paper. How we view our life is also a big part in how we live our lives. For someone that was homeless and hungry, a grain of rice may seem like the world, when in school we learn that a single grain of rice is merely a single grain and nothing more until it is added to.
We are sent to school to get us out of our childish imaginations to gain the intellect of an adult, when a child can see a person or something for what it really is. So the blanket on the floor may just be a piece of cloth to someone older, when to an “undeveloped” child sees it as a shelter of cozy dreams. And blankets are made to keep people warm so the more we look at the world like a child, the world seems to open up like gates to a castle.
If we have the education given to us and we do not learn it ourselves, it steals a very small yet very important aspect on how our life could be. If we all had a childlike innocence like Beatrice in Rappaccini’s Daughter, I think that maybe the world wouldn’t be such a dangerous place. We would all learn things the hard way and figure out a way of who we are that we may have known when we were little, but no longer possess from the knowledge of another to influence us.
In my opinion, we might have more inventors or brilliant minds like Jane Austen or Shakespeare or even another Benjamin Franklin and Einstein if we didn’t have school. From what I have researched, they had a very limited education and yet the imagination from within was still held and they were only a few of the brilliant minds to change the world into what it is today. I think that if we started to have more opportunities to learn from life, we would indeed all have a genius inside that could change the world more than a simple thing like, say a pronoun.
Yet within all of this, the world has tried to give us that little piece of us we lose by saying that we have the freedoms that we lost, yet they’re not the same. When we were taught, we lost a piece of innocence that would have made some one more unique, a little happier, a little better. But we can’t know this anymore since we have almost all been taught the opinions of others and lost the right of our imagination because it was wrong compared to the thoughts of those of us who were “right.”
Bertrand Russell’s quote, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” Is still in motion because through school we learn a different kind of intelligence than the one that we learn for ourselves. We become another clone of one another and that is how we grow and live to be.

--Alexis Sackett 3rd period
2008-10-03 03:45:42 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Mr. Russell is saying that by going to school, we are limiting ourselves from the learning experiences we would originally make if the education was not there. By going to get an education we are learning from other people’s hypotheses and experiences when everyone has a different experience. So in teaching, they assume that all kids learn the same when there are visual and hearing learners. Which means that in assuming that we are all the same we do not get the full capacity of knowledge that they force down our throats. With the education today they get us ready for what we need to know in the business world. When a lot may become, say gardeners or something else, we either need to get other peoples results or we can test and fail our own when we may have found something even better than the other person because we took the liberty of doing it on our own. If we don’t have the choice to do things on our own then we are effectively, clay people made the same but with different personalities.
I agree with Bertrand because if someone were to go explore the world, they would have different philosophies of how to view life rather than a person who experienced the world through images and text on a piece of paper. How we view our life is also a big part in how we live our lives. For someone that was homeless and hungry, a grain of rice may seem like the world, when in school we learn that a single grain of rice is merely a single grain and nothing more until it is added to.
We are sent to school to get us out of our childish imaginations to gain the intellect of an adult, when a child can see a person or something for what it really is. So the blanket on the floor may just be a piece of cloth to someone older, when to an “undeveloped” child sees it as a shelter of cozy dreams. And blankets are made to keep people warm so the more we look at the world like a child, the world seems to open up like gates to a castle.
If we have the education given to us and we do not learn it ourselves, it steals a very small yet very important aspect on how our life could be. If we all had a childlike innocence like Beatrice in Rappaccini’s Daughter, I think that maybe the world wouldn’t be such a dangerous place. We would all learn things the hard way and figure out a way of who we are that we may have known when we were little, but no longer possess from the knowledge of another to influence us.
In my opinion, we might have more inventors or brilliant minds like Jane Austen or Shakespeare or even another Benjamin Franklin and Einstein if we didn’t have school. From what I have researched, they had a very limited education and yet the imagination from within was still held and they were only a few of the brilliant minds to change the world into what it is today. I think that if we started to have more opportunities to learn from life, we would indeed all have a genius inside that could change the world more than a simple thing like, say a pronoun.
Yet within all of this, the world has tried to give us that little piece of us we lose by saying that we have the freedoms that we lost, yet they’re not the same. When we were taught, we lost a piece of innocence that would have made some one more unique, a little happier, a little better. But we can’t know this anymore since we have almost all been taught the opinions of others and lost the right of our imagination because it was wrong compared to the thoughts of those of us who were “right.”
Bertrand Russell’s quote, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” Is still in motion because through school we learn a different kind of intelligence than the one that we learn for ourselves. We become another clone of one another and that is how we grow and live to be.

--Alexis Sackett 3rd period
2008-10-03 03:52:12 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.
- Bertrand Russell
What Bertrand Russell is saying that by sending students to school, you are depriving them the ability to think freely for themselves and be creative. Bertrand Russell is also saying that education is also getting in the way of true intelligence. Bertrand Russell also implies that true intelligence is something you are born with, not something taught to you at a school. I can understand why Bertrand Russell would say that, especially now a days when teachers are only concerned with preparing students for their end of the year exam. They only worrying about the correct answer, and not how you get it.That may be true, but not all teachers think that way.
Without education we wouldn’t be as smart as we are. If we didn’t have education and schools we would not have a way to pass on the knowledge we obtained in the previous generation to next. Which would result in not having some of the technology we have today. Without schools we would most likely still be working on our parent’s farm. If we didn’t receive an education we wouldn’t be able to get a good paying job or career. There are probably only a hand full of people in the world who could actually self teach themselves and discipline themselves to sit down and actually do it. Most kids today are lazy and don’t have the self discipline to sit down do there work.
School isn’t depriving students of freedom of thought, there are a lot art programs in schools, which encourages students and gives them a chance to express themselves. Some schools even have after school art programs. Even teachers tell their students to be creative, especially on projects. Some teachers even make creativity apart of their grading.
There is no way to achieve intelligence without going to school and getting an education. An education is like the foundation to receiving true intelligence. Without school and teachers pushing you to try best at something you can’t really reach your full potential. At school there is someone always asking what college are you going to, what do you want to be when you grow, and how are you going to get there.
In conclusion, true intelligence can’t be reached without an education and going to school. Also education doesn’t put limitations on freedom of thought. In fact education gives you more opportunities and chances in life.


--Chanethia Davis 1st
<mailto:chanene12@hotmail.com>
2008-10-03 03:56:09 GMT
Author:Anonymous
My understanding of Bertrand Russell’s quote is that he trying to communicate that education is what blocks us from our true intelligence and our own thoughts and opinions. My opinion of educational institution today places its students in one category of learning and doesn’t give any consideration to the differences or talents of the individual students. In my personal experience some of my teachers have told me that my opinion matters, but in the end it’s all about the right, “answer”, your thoughts in the subject will probably never matter in the eyes of the educational system.
I would like to note here that, while Freedom of Speech is guaranteed in our Constitution, Freedom of Thought most certainly is not commonly held. All of the forces that encourage members of a society to adopt that society beliefs have a set of norms and ideas that very successfully squash freedom of thought. Forces such as these are the family (habitually) , churches, the media, the government itself, and the education institution. So this is another reason why I am inclined to agree with this statement of Bertrand Russell’s. “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” In my brief educational experience I have not found that to be the case. The federal regulation of “No Child Left Behind” has not alleviated the issue.
On January 8, 2002, President Bush signed the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB) into law at a ceremony at Hamilton High School in Ohio. During that event, the president said that, as a result of NCLB, “all students will have a better chance to learn, to excel, and to live out their dreams”, with the “No Child Left Behind” Act of 2001 reauthorized the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) -- the main federal law affecting education from kindergarten through high school. This act was proposed by President Bush shortly after his inauguration; NCLB was signed into law on January 8th, 2002. It challenges states and school districts to intensify their efforts to improve the academic achievement of public school students considered at risk for school failure. NCLB's new provisions for assessment and accountability are designed to focus increased levels of attention on under-performing groups of students and to close the achievement gap between them and their peers.
I believe that the NCLB, while assisting the lower performing students in the country is nit succeeding in the development within the U.S. by providing adequate educational services in order to assist its students to succeed in today’s society. The United States ranks 17th in its high school graduation rate. American fifteen-year-olds rank 15th in reading scores; 23rd in the math scores; and 30th in problem solving skills. Only 70 percent of all entering freshmen and barely half of students with diversity finish high school with a regular diploma four years later. Every school day, nearly 7,000 American high school students become dropouts. Despite that fact, only with the only 30 percent of students entering high school read at the appropriate grade level. It is not surprising that only a third is prepared for college and work by the time they graduate. So in at the high school level the NCLB Act has made no significant difference in the lives of the students that it was intended to assist.

--Roberto Figueroa
2008-10-03 04:01:05 GMT
Author:Anonymous
All in all my recommendation is that the government needs to seriously restructure our educational system and look at how we are operating our schools, looking at the student – teacher ratio as our teachers cannot instruct fifty students, we must insure regulations to abide NCLB laws and also we must respect the opinions of each and every one of our students and letting them try to figure out something with their own methods because they are our future and if we cannot allow the people that are going to run this nation to walk on there own two feet our future is going to go downhill from here on out
--Roberto Figueroa
2008-10-03 04:02:22 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree with Bertrand Russell’s quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” Education is a very valuable necessity to have in your life, without education you will not be as smart as other people or you will not know that much. Also you now need an education or in some place a degree or some kind of education to get okay to high paying jobs to get through life.
For example, would you rather have a low paying job with a salary of five dollars an hour and you have a family to raise, food to buy, shelter to live under, in other words, just living from paycheck to paycheck and not having any money to buy the stuff you “want.” Instead of living that way, you can stay in high school and get a diploma or even better go to college, get a degree, and possibly get a high paying job. If you do you will not have to live from paycheck to paycheck, you can actually have nice accessories like nice clothes, shoes, a great house, and all kinds of other stuff that you “want.” It would be way better if you just stayed in school to get an education instead of dropping out or not getting a diploma or degree.
Some people think that you do not need an education to play official sports, and think you just need skill to get in an official sport, if u don’t have the brains to read plays then you will end up doing a whole different play and you will feel stupid. Also if you do not know how to read or write, and they interview you, you will not know what to say or better yet, they make you write an article or something that involves writing and posting it on a newspaper. So you do need an education to join sports, and I think you need to maintain a good passing average through your college year to play sports.
Where would we be with out education? There would be no light bulb, video games, computer, or other technology without education. The people that made those items had some education or thought in what they were doing, which caused them to successfully invent or make what they made. Some did not get their invention to work the first time so they tried and tried again until the invention finally worked. Like with the Wright brothers, they had a theory that we could fly and they used there education or brains to put together a flying device that transports people and other stuff called the “airplane.” There invention failed many of times, but that did not stop them, they kept going back to the drawing board and used their education to fix things with the invention until it actually worked.
In conclusion, Bertrand Russell’s quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought” is basically saying that we would be nothing without education. We would probably still be in the Neolithic Revolution were we manually do stuff our own self, like farm, make clothes, hunt animals to feed your family everyday, or collecting stuff instead of just buying them all at the market.

--Nathaniel Tala
--1st Period
2008-10-03 04:06:43 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote: We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.
~Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)

In this quote, Bertrand Russell portrays education as a seemingly beneficial institution that only debilitates and obstructs the ability to express freedom of thought and presents to students a form of “intelligence” that has no actual value in the real world. Although he denounces education, when he declares it as “paradoxical”, he expresses his belief that education should strengthen a student’s ability to use his intelligence to effectively communicate his opinions, but as a society, we have come to realize that is actually the opposite.

As an experienced student, I would have to agree with Russell. As young students, we are comparable to young, wild animals that have been recruited to become circus animals. We are trained to perform tricks without knowing what they mean, and only knowing that we will be praised after successfully performing. When released back to our original habitat, we realize that we are so use to being fed and raised by trainers, that we have never really developed the ability to survive on our own. It is the same with the education system we have today. In school, students are taught to memorize and recite answers rather than to analyze information and actually apply it. It has been conveyed that tame students are good students and that the best way to learn is to learn with an open mind and a closed mouth.

The main problem with progressing students today is their inability to accept that there is not always a “right answer”. The “right answer” way of thinking gives students false confidence and a “comfort zone” while answering questions and a faulty understanding of the use of what they have learned. Because of this, students no longer feel secure while dealing with subjective topics that can be answered with a wide range of replies. It is the anxiety resulting from not knowing the objective answer to a question that is the main source of frustration and it is not until they have reached a higher level of education, that students have realized that they have been previously taught in a manner that would not of prepared them for the level at which they are currently learning. This is a common occurrence that shows the hindrance of the education system. The main concern with education today is how students will handle jobs. Jobs present many challenges with solutions that depend strictly on judgment and require innovation and improvisation.

The average teacher focuses mainly on the fact that they cover the material that they are hired to cover instead of instructing the practical use of the material. They do this to limit the strain on themselves and on the pupils. What they do not realize is that making it easy for students now will only make it harder for them in the future and in order to make it easier for them in the future, they should make it difficult now. This is the time that they should be making mistakes; most people would rather be corrected by their teacher rather than their boss.

“The chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought” should be considered chief concerns of the public. Although this type of problem may not take immediate effect, once it does, it has the potential to negatively change our society because the students of today are the leaders of tomorrow. If students do not learn how to apply the skills that they have obtained during their academic career to their future careers, what is the use of education? After all, a corrupt education can only create a corrupt future.


--Jennifer Harrison 4th Period
2008-10-03 04:22:15 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is stating that the educational system places a boundary on people’s potential intelligence. Bertrand Russell conveys education as not letting us think critically and use our brains to our own limits. We don’t use our minds to the fullest capacity simply because we are not allowed by the way we are taught.
A quote from British writer Norman Douglas stated “Education is a state-controlled manufactory of echoes.” What he said goes with Russell’s skepticism on education. The standardized format of learning is the motive that caused Russell to verbalize this.
Martin Luther King said, “the function of education is to teach one to think critically...Intelligence plus character— that is the goal of true education." Everyone can receive knowledge, but it depends on the person how well that knowledge is used or translated. That’s what a true education is.
If your not challenged to think outside the box, and to think of what we think is the “right” answer, then there’s not really any educational or constructive growth, is there? In my 8th grade year, my teacher got grades from her students by assigning us projects and work with specific rubrics to follow according to the way she would do the project and the way she thought things should be done. If you ask me, that did not help prepare me for anything AT ALL, especially Ms. Broussard’s class. In college, you don’t follow a specific set of instructions…. You’re on your own. You have to write essays and that sort of stuff with what YOU think is right and you have to be able to back up why you say so and why it makes sense to you.
Another point I feel that Bertrand Russell touched upon with this quote is how a person’s educational background should determine how well they do financially or how intelligent they really are. Intelligence is the capacity of understanding and leaning ability. So someone could drop out of school for lots of reasons and still be an intelligent person. And success isn’t always determined by education either. Bill Gates, the chairman of Microsoft and third richest person in the world (as of February 8, 2008), dropped out of Harvard University at age 20. His partner in the founding of his famous software program urged him to. Russell Simmons, another college dropout, is a hip-hop and rap mogul, owns his own clothing line (Phat Farm), making him a highly influential media figure.
This year in high school, their will be more challenges placed before me. I will probably have to use every single bit of my aptitude. But I would rather use my brainpower to the max than to not use it at all. I feel that the homogeneous method of education and teaching the same way to different people with different minds, developmental pace, and mental capabilities is crippling expression of individuality. Anyone can follow directions. It’s easy. It’s easy to teach a group the same thing at the same time from a book and hand them instructions so all their work is relatively the same. Unlike teaching students something and having them branch out on their own and see their take on what they’ve learned.
People should have freedom of thought. But, education wise, there’s only one answer. Not what you think could be right. Everyone takes in information differently. And everyone is going to put out their input differently if allowed to do so.
Returning to the wise words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., allowing to think critically and to combine one’s aptitude with personal quality is what makes true education.

--Tyaisa Williams~1st period
<mailto:daspecial12b@yahoo.com>
2008-10-03 04:25:40 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is stating that the educational system places a boundary on people’s potential intelligence. Bertrand Russell conveys education as not letting us think critically and use our brains to our own limits. We don’t use our minds to the fullest capacity simply because we are not allowed by the way we are taught.
A quote from British writer Norman Douglas stated “Education is a state-controlled manufactory of echoes.” What he said goes with Russell’s skepticism on education. The standardized format of learning is the motive that caused Russell to verbalize this.
Martin Luther King said, “the function of education is to teach one to think critically...Intelligence plus character— that is the goal of true education." Everyone can receive knowledge, but it depends on the person how well that knowledge is used or translated. That’s what a true education is.
If your not challenged to think outside the box, and to think of what we think is the “right” answer, then there’s not really any educational or constructive growth, is there? In my 8th grade year, my teacher got grades from her students by assigning us projects and work with specific rubrics to follow according to the way she would do the project and the way she thought things should be done. If you ask me, that did not help prepare me for anything AT ALL, especially Ms. Broussard’s class. In college, you don’t follow a specific set of instructions…. You’re on your own. You have to write essays and that sort of stuff with what YOU think is right and you have to be able to back up why you say so and why it makes sense to you.
Another point I feel that Bertrand Russell touched upon with this quote is how a person’s educational background should determine how well they do financially or how intelligent they really are. Intelligence is the capacity of understanding and leaning ability. So someone could drop out of school for lots of reasons and still be an intelligent person. And success isn’t always determined by education either. Bill Gates, the chairman of Microsoft and third richest person in the world (as of February 8, 2008), dropped out of Harvard University at age 20. His partner in the founding of his famous software program urged him to. Russell Simmons, another college dropout, is a hip-hop and rap mogul, owns his own clothing line (Phat Farm), making him a highly influential media figure.
This year in high school, their will be more challenges placed before me. I will probably have to use every single bit of my aptitude. But I would rather use my brainpower to the max than to not use it at all. I feel that the homogeneous method of education and teaching the same way to different people with different minds, developmental pace, and mental capabilities is crippling expression of individuality. Anyone can follow directions. It’s easy. It’s easy to teach a group the same thing at the same time from a book and hand them instructions so all their work is relatively the same. Unlike teaching students something and having them branch out on their own and see their take on what they’ve learned.
People should have freedom of thought. But, education wise, there’s only one answer. Not what you think could be right. Everyone takes in information differently. And everyone is going to put out their input differently if allowed to do so.
Returning to the wise words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., allowing to think critically and to combine one’s aptitude with personal quality is what makes true education.

--Tyaisa Williams~1st period
<mailto:daspecial12b@yahoo.com>
2008-10-03 04:25:42 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell's quote is speaking out all educational systems. He is telling us that education is no longer where people can have their own opinion, but they are given one to follow. Bertrand was a teacher so he experienced this first hand. Me being a student and reading this quote made me realize that since elementary I have been given my opinion and it will probably be like that all through my educational life. Although teachers don't say, take this opinion and erase yours, they basically are by telling us that's wrong and this is wright. But it isn't the just the teachers it's the whole school orginization.This is important and people should care because wouldn't you and shouldn't you have the freedom to express your own thoughts.
I agree with Russell because I believe this is true especially in today's education. Education can't be ruled out completely , of course, but allowed more freedom in our imagination, thoughts, and opinions, being able to disagree. I think our minds and intelligence can expand and grow even more than ever if there weren't obsticles, or I like to call them a wall. I want to climb and go beyond the wall to find more options in my education and future.this wall is holding us back from uor imagination. For example, when were supposed to think outside the box, some of us can't because we've been traped inside it so long we don't know how to break out. Like when we annotate in your class and we get the theme wrong, that's because we've been taught to know theme as one thing, main idea. When we do get out of the box I think essay's will be easier to write, questions that require deep thought, and etc. i remember in one of my classes in 6th grade this girl got in trouble for disagreeing with the teacher about the lesson, but she stood by what she thought was right. Situations like this is why student's are afraid to speak up or answer a question because they might be wrong. I'm not afraid to admit I do this, but in some cases I just have to speak my mind. Writing this paper is a good example because it gives me the chance to give my thought to people who read it. Us students should be comfortable being ourselves and saying what we think in school's without somone criticizing
it.
This quote doesn't just relate to education in school's but also in life. For a job interview you'll have to answer questions that weren's tought, and knowing and having one write answer is acustomed to your mind. Changing from what we wre tought to think to what we think, can rattle and stress our minds. Now that I'm in highschool it's like I'm being retought from scratch, only this time it's to have an independent idea or thought on something. I like this because knowing it isn't all it takes, but having enough creativity and independent thought is important too. Most of my teachers tell me to be creative and tell me what you think. For theatre arts our first journal was to write about what theatre/acting
means to us.
Readers need to open their eyes and take thought into this because it is something worht thinking about. Our minds should rome freely and take in our creativity with education and have teachers embrace who we are as well as ourselves. Why shouldn't student's have freedom of thought? I know I want to, what's your opinion?


2008-10-03 04:45:17 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russel’s idea on education is both true and eye-opening. Bertrand Russel’s opinion in this quote is that due to the education in schools, humankind has grown up with a set number of boundaries on our thought process. Ever since we were born, we were told to do things a certain way, with no real imagination involved. This limited thinking is what has made us all have a right and wrong way of doing things. Bertrand Russel is trying to point out that the reason for us being nothing ordinary, is that we have had everything extraordinary tugged out of us at a young age.
I agree with Bertrand Russel’s quote. School has made it impossible for us to think outside of the box. It is as if the box is about the size of your fist, and inside this box is the right answer. While everything outside the box is the wrong answer. This is what education is doing to us. Limiting our thinking level to the point where we’re just like everybody else. Who’s to say that one plus one is two?! Why can it not be fish? It is because fish, is not in the box. Since we were taught to know that one plus one is two, and not fish, we have just unwillingly set a boarder on our self thought.
Being taught something for the first time is difficult. I am sure that sometimes, we all are in that one class. That one class that nobody seems to like. Not because the teacher is strict, or it is difficult, yet because we are scared that every answer we give will be wrong. We may sit there and think we know the answer, but never raise our hands due to the doubt in ourselves. This doubt is fueled by the pressure of not having the correct answer. When this pressure is too much, we just decide not to say anything and let the teacher continue talking. Even after we hear what the right answer from the teacher, we still don’t understand why. Why did the chicken cross the road? Well, we will never know, since we didn’t ask.
I have had a personal experience with this topic. In middle school, I had a class that did not allow the question why. There was no point in asking why, since you were not going to get a logical answer. Math class is the class I am referring to. In math, there is not a solid reason why we solve things a certain way. So when someone would ask “why?” I would silently think to myself. “There is NO WHY in math! In math, you either do it certain way or get it wrong!” Now that I’m looking back on this, I think that I was a very “in the box” sort of person when it came to math. I learned how to do it, and I did it that way. In math, there are multiple ways to do things, however, for some odd reason there is only one right way to answer. Why should the way we do it matter? Well, the reason why, is that if we all think the same, and solve it the same way, then it will be easier to distinguish who’s right and who’s wrong.
Due to the educational systems of schools and testing, we have based all of our life’s decisions on what we think everyone else sees as the “right way” instead of finding our own “way.” By the time we graduate high school and enter College, the vast way of thinking that is needed to get through and fully comprehend what it is that we need to know to pass or even understand at all. Freedom of thought is what we strive to achieve and the way we are learning things now are not giving us the freedom we need. If there was no freedom, then the world would all be the same.
Imagine 6 billion clones who think the same and all do the same things the “right way.” What a boring world that would be. We need freedom to be different. We need freedom to think outside of “the box.” We need freedom, to be ourselves.

WC:710

-Lillian Martinez
7th period
2008-10-03 04:48:11 GMT
Author:Anonymous
-Sorry I forgot to put my name.
Jessica Silva
7th period
2008-10-03 04:49:41 GMT
Author:Anonymous
First, I would like to say that I agree with Bertrand Russell’s comment.
He was a very opinionated man who had many beliefs, which he voiced. By expressing his mind, he was able to spark thoughts in other’s minds about different ideas. This is the same mind and voice that I feel is frowned upon in schools across the nation. Education is one of the most important elements of life. It either makes or breaks us and is a major factor in determining our future as grown ups in the real world. I have always been taught that each level of schooling is preparing me for the cruel, harsh, and challenging world. Where opportunities constantly present their selves, competition is key to success and hard work, and rewards will come to those who wait. But yet I find myself, in different classes, receiving mixed messages.
In some of my classes, they ask and question, and then wait for the one answer that they say to be correct to be said. In others, I am told to think outside the box. My brain is confused on when to get creative, and when it is time to regurgitate the answers I have been told are right. Otherwise my grades will decrease dramatically. But what I don’t get, is that how do I know this is the right answer. I barely get taught why something is, or how to come about the answer. And if I do get the opportunity to obtain this vital information, I am showed only one way of getting this answer or thought. Then all of a sudden, teachers want to tell me to interpret the information and come up with my own idea, meaning, or procedure. How is this possible when I haven’t been taught exactly how to accomplish this task. I feel flabbergasted and perplexed when trying to even get started. In some class, such as English, we are given assignments such as poems and told to annotate. The hard part about this is that in the process of completing the assignment, you must paraphrase, which requires you to look for the TRUE meaning of the text and putting it into your own words. I run into trouble when I attempt to tell my brain to think hard, and be creative; a time to step out of the box. System overload!
Another good point I feel Russell has made is that we are no longer in control of our minds. We are like programmed robots. Take in the information and repeat. It’s that simple. As we persistently mock our instructors, we loose ourselves in “right answers”. Standardized test are also another crook of our intellectual sides. When asked what equals eight, most people would probably say 4+4. Which is correct, but then someone else tells you to find 5 other ways to get the same answer, you have to really think deep. I probably wouldn’t have thought of 8+0=8, 8*1=8, 4*2=8, 10-2=8, and 20-12=8, without giving it much thought, as I just did. It all comes down to The Man, not necessarily the teachers. Sometimes you’ll find a teacher that realizes the power of a child’s mind, and the importance of personal thought. Who is anybody to tell my opinion or way of thinking is incorrect, or not valid. This is what drives adolescents to express themselves in other ways. Such as attire, word choice, writing, drawing, and other ways of mental outlet. Just by seeing how creative we are in other areas of life should be enough to see how far we can go and what we can achieve by expressing ourselves. Education has just been getting stricter and more straight to the point. If only the people running the school administration could acquire such knowledge of the significant beauty of a young, hungry mind. If anything, the school administration should be teaching us different ways of thinking and embracing our creativity and cleverness.
2008-10-03 04:50:03 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Dahn...I did it again !!!! That last one was by Meia Ms. B!!! And I acually think I did better than I thought I would!
2008-10-03 04:52:24 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell’s quote, even though said in a different generation, still applies to the schools of the present. The quote states that education has become something that not increases our knowledge but rather takes away our intelligence and a student’s freedom of thought. We have grown up in a world where grades define how smart a person is. The students of our time just answer how they are supposed to with the precise answers and do not think any more of it. Unfortunately, not only does it just apply to America, but to every country that has an educational system.
Albert Einstein, considered one of the greatest men of time, did not even complete high school. In fact, he stated that “the spirit of learning and creative thought were lost in strict rote learning.” Many of the greatest minds that walked this Earth also believe that school systems take away a man’s uniqueness and instead shape him into something that is the same as everyone else. We are all taught the same curriculum like we all have the same mind. I have witnessed countless students just repeat what they read in a textbook.
In school we learn about Math, Science, History, and English not about life. Intelligence isn’t gained by knowing the facts but instead by experience in your own life time. Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein did not worry about the specifics of Math and Science and yet created some of the most brilliant inventions. They were not weighed down by the facts of different subjects. Each stepped completely away from what they were taught and came up with entirely with their own answers to problems.
I agree with this quote for the same reason as Albert Einstein. We are fed facts and expected to just mold them into a correct answer. This is confused by many as an opinion. A man’s own opinion isn’t facts with a different wording but rather his own personal view on something. Even now, while I am writing this essay I cannot help but think of what are the correct guidelines for this blog.
One evening my friend Patrick came over with his friend David. David, who grew up in a military family, was a man of great opinions about the government so, we discussed Ayn Rand’s quote. The whole time we were having the discussion all I could think about was where was the proof in a text book. His main point, though, was that the government assigns teachers what to teach us and nothing more. Today we are taught things that we would never apply in our futures and are simply just wasting our time learning it.
In some of my classes the teachers say to think outside the box yet I wonder if they actually do as well. I know of various teachers who just copy questions, give the solutions, and just expect the student to have all the correct answers on a test. I believe that tests see how well we take that test and not our intelligence. Even on our TAKS test we are never asked our opinion but instead of facts. Standardized testing is a waste of time because if we didn’t know the material we wouldn’t be passing the class.
In order to stop this, our teachers need to learn how to assign things that acquire students to think for themselves. Today’s students need to understand that it is not grades that define a man’s intelligence. Human beings need to express their thoughts rather than what someone else has told them. Our world would be entirely different if a person could just say their beliefs without accounting “the facts”. The freedom of an opinion is such a glorious thing and should be used to its greatest advantage.

--Sarah Luna - 4th period =/
2008-10-03 04:56:34 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russel is stating that education is hindering our freedom of thought and intelligence. The education system forces us to think the way they want [us] the students to think instead of letting us think things through and figure out different ways to assess problems given to us. The schools are set up to teach only the minimum due to the fact they only have nine months to teach two years worth the information. Not to mention prepare us for a test designed to weed out the strong minded from those who are not yet skilled in a certain subject or subjects. This system does not allow the students to think freely. It only prepares them for collage, and being that not to many people make it there in the first place, its a waste of time teaching that way. I feel that teachers should teach the students about the harsh realities of the world along with all of its good qualities, history and methods, so that when we are pushed out into this cold unforgiving world, we have two feet to stand on comfortably and with stability.
The great minds of the past were allowed to indulge there creativity and explore new realms of thought and ideas freely. They used mentors and drew inspiration from everything around them. They are now inventors,artist,engineers and higly regarded as genuises of there time. Limiting education to a few subjects not only stiffens the imagination but also discourages students from dreaming of the next great thing, whatever it may be. Education is a cycle of learning and regurgatating ideas and thoughts that may or may not fit into today's fast past think out of the box society.
If one mind, one person revaults against this half minded idea of "education". We as a nation will be able to see insparation with every step forward that we take, find freedom in our thoughts and educate ourselves with experience opposed to nothing more than paper with writing that most view as meaning less words.
--Amber Alston period 3
2008-10-03 05:33:52 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russel states that “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” Meaning that the education we are receiving as people now is a big road block on our creative side, it somewhat enslaves our freedom of thoughts on finding more then one way to figure out, as individuals, a problem given to us, and gives everyone that same universal method of solving the problem so the person to the left is no different, no special then to the person to his or her right. So that creative thought in each of us is useless, not important, while taking a test or sitting in that classroom answering questions for your teacher.

I agree with Bertrand Russel, because very rarely is there any IN YOUR OWN OPINION or IN YOUR OWN WORDS types of ordeals in today’s day and time. Today’s tests are mostly bubble in the letter, only one answer possible, types of test which really doesn’t take any of YOUR thought at all. The kinds of thoughts it takes to answer those bubble in one answer tests belong to the educational system that is passed down to the teachers and via you the student, so we basically go to school and are taught to remember the correct way to answer a test, or to answer the question that’s asked by the teacher in class, we have to be pin point and precise just to give that teacher the answer she wanted to hear. Here’s an example: We all had a time when a teacher asked us a certain question as a class and like 2 out of every 4 or 5 people would be told they are on the right track. Those students who are on the right track are still wrong cause there can only be one full proof correct answer, those kids came mighty close, but the way we are taught now there is no runner up correct answer to a question, there can only be one correct answer. And it seems the older you get the less and less you’ll need that right to think outside the box, because I’ve yet to see a degree received in college for someone having the most imagination or the most creative thoughts. Freedoms of thoughts are appreciated by people and some people admire other people’s creativity but in the end it will not help you pass a test or get you that job you wanted. It seems as though you have to become dependent upon the education today in order to succeed kind of like they’ll do it for you and in the end you didn’t solve nothing at all you had no opinion whatsoever you had no say on how you wanted to solve it so your really not thinking and solving for yourself cause the answer was already put out there for you and everyone else and if you choose different the it seems as though you failed.

A really good example of some who used his freedom of thought and wasn’t very dependent on education was Thomas Edison. Thomas didn’t receive much of an education growing up cause a teacher basically flat out came out and said that Thomas was to dumb the teach and the mother dec9ded to pull him out and teach him herself. He didn’t seem to have the same education as most kids, but how was he so successful? Could it have been that while students were getting spanked on the hand for approaching the problem anyway but the way the teacher said approach it, Thomas had the advantage of finding multiple ways, matter of a fact, any way that he can possibly think of and apply it to that problem and still receive the same answer. Not only that but not be punished or embarrassed by his own peers on having his own way of solving things that he freely thought up.

It’s kind of as if we are being programmed to do any problem we encounter on a test or on a worksheet the same way as everyone else. Instead of showing how truly smart we are when it comes to expressing our thoughts and our opinions we have to show how good we are with our memory and remembering how to do things the way we’ve been taught. There is truly no need for us to debate over why were defending our answers or why this answer is correct versus
--Anthony Robinson 1st pd.
2008-10-03 05:59:37 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The quote is stating that in our lives our most important and difficult challenge gaining a good education. In life we will face many obstacles but our greatest one is our education being a major one. No matter what happens in life we will always need an education, but also at the same time it is limiting us. School has us thinking only what other people think is the right way to learn with limits on what we can and can’t do. We forget our way of thinking and start thinking to do things the way our teachers have taught us so it has been an obstacle for us having us to think the way we want to for ourselves.
The quote “we are faced with the paradoxical fact that the education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and thought,” is saying that education is a challenge everyone has to face to get on forward in life. At the very least we need education they’re people that can make good jobs without a good education but many people need a good education to get a job to support that persons family. It changes our way of thought and process on how we are suppose to do things in our life and work. Even though the quote was said at a totally different time it still applies to our school and education in the present by saying we have to get our answers one way and that way only we can only do that way. It say that it is wrong because there will always be more than one way to get answer and doesn’t necessarily mean it is the right way it is just an easy way for you to get the answer.
For example when someone is writing an essay or a book they are doing it the way they want to but in school it is told that you can only do it the way u were taught. When you write it your own way it is just as good as the way you were taught but since it isn’t the way u were taught the teacher or professor says that it is wrong. So the quote is mainly stating that education may be our greatest challenge or obstacle but is what gives us our intelligence and our own thought on our life and work.

--Joshua Muniz 6th Period
2008-10-03 06:34:54 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is basically saying that an education has an effect on our freedom of thought and opinion. We have always been told what to say and what we would have to agree or find some way to disagree with someone over the years many have been brought up by the same teaching. A lot of times its the same information but its more detailed and advanced. We are still learning the things we need but it’s just that someone had already done them. This sets people up for thinking the same way. I do believe that education has taken away that freedom of expressing yourself and it’s hard to create one if you do have one your own opinion to back it up.
A quote like this from Russell isn’t unusual and it expresses his feelings over the reason behind an education system though. He was most associated with English, but had always been involved in political affairs as his family was. He was a prolific writer, which meant that he was highly productive in his works of literature. Russell used a form of Free thought that is a viewpoint of beliefs that should be looked at in the terms of science and logic instead of emotion or dogma. Those who believe in this viewpoint are called freethinkers. Russell became a firm believer and had based this certain quote off of logic. This quote is important because if children are going to school to learn to be successful, make their own opinions, and make their selves known, but aren’t getting the chance to choose what their own ideas to support it, then why give them that type of education. We don’t all need to be freethinkers, but we need to be able to form our own ideas and have evidence that supports it rather than having someone else hand it down and tell us what to say. If this happens, then we would mostly have to agree with only a few opinions. I’m not saying that an education is bad because we are learning the things we need to know to help us later in life, but if it could be a problem in learning and it could possibly be affecting the students’ opinions, then we might need to rethink on how to educate.
Continuing my opinion I do agree with Russell on the fact of education being an obstacle to freedom of thought and opinion. Education are very important to us still in school but if getting in the way of people thoughts and own opinions that could effect and deprive them of what you have gotten out of your education. I also believe that it has affected the ideas at some people we might listen to. What I'm saying is, if we have been told what to say for the majority of our education, then the supposedly new information we are hearing and having to learn really isn’t new. After reading over this quote, I feel a little confused and I started to relate whether I am restricted to my freedom of thought. I guess I have always been a creative person, but never questioned the fact that I could be deprived of freethinking. Going through elementary and middle school, I think we have had a small amount of freethinking. Freethinking isn’t the same as arguing your point because you need evidence. The only evidence we would have is from textbooks. Being in high school now, students need to start speaking up for certain things that they believe in. If they don’t then we would have to listen to someone else say something that has already been recorded. This could possibly effect all the information that we are agreeing with now.

Bree’Anna Milton
Pd. 7
2008-10-03 11:30:21 GMT
Author:Anonymous
What Bertrand Russell is trying to say is that education is not making a child smarter or more intelligent; it is just taking away the freedom children have to express themselves. It was just a regular Saturday at my friend’s house. We were just talking about what we would like to be when we become adults. I said I’d like nothing else than to be a professional basketball player while my friend said he would like to be a police officer. I guess his mom overheard us and came in the room and said there is no way any son of mine will be a police officer when they can go to school and get an education to be something like a doctor. The look on my friends face hurt me a lot because I felt bad for him. Education is taking away a chance to be free and express yourself without anybody telling you you’re wrong because of what the teacher said. I am a very shy but intelligent young man and if not given the opportunity to express myself I won’t. I will just seat in my chair and accept everything that the teacher is telling me. Don’t get me wrong because most of the things the teacher tells you are correct but if we get a chance to say what we the students think we might open a lot of closed doors. A lot of people say that education is the key but according to Bertrand Russell education is the lock and freedom to express yourself, and creativity is the key. Being free and able to think for yourself is very important. People that were geniuses or are now geniuses like Albert Einstein thought outside the box and expressed their opinions and being able to do that helped him make one of the most important discoveries in life. A lot of musicians in the U.S did not get their education or get a degree in something like business to help them with what they love doing. They just express themselves and now are making a lot of money doing that. I’m not saying that we should not go to college and pursue our dreams, all I am saying is that we should be able to think freely and not depend on education for everything. I’m not exactly sure which country this is but it was something like being able to choose what you want to be at a young age and keep on doing that until you find a right career. Bill gates did not graduate from high school yet he is the richest man in America. All he did was express himself and create Microsoft word and now he is successful. It’s not that education is evil it’s just that it limits us from creativeness. If Bill Gates had not stop going to school and created Microsoft I probably will not be able to send this wonderful blog. That’s what I have to say about Bertrand Russell’s quote.
--Tomiwa Akinbayo 3rd period
2008-10-03 11:52:28 GMT
Author:Anonymous
What Bertrand Russell is saying is that the path to intelligence and freedom is not an easy one. He is saying that there will be obstacles to face or challenges to stand up to. But, I think that Bertrand is wrong when he says that education is an obstacle. I don’t think that education is just a mere obstacle; I think that it is one of the paths that you must walk in your life. While you are walking the path of education, you gain intelligence and you will always have your freedom of thought. It is just a matter of how you use your intelligence and freedom. It is a little confusing, but laid out straight, he is just saying that education gets in the way of our gaining of intelligence and our freedom of thought. What some people don’t understand is that education is the exact way to gain intelligence and to have freedom of thought. Maybe I should better explain what education is before I go any further. Yes, education is a path to follow in life, but it is also your guide. For example, when I am having trouble on something in school, I go back and look over the notes that I wrote on that subject. I was educated on how to correctly write good notes, and by looking at those notes I am being educated on how to solve the specific problem that I am having trouble with. Let’s say that you are walking in a huge forest, and you don’t want to get lost because there is no path to follow. Everywhere you turn, all you see is the same thing. You can use what you have learned in the past to help you navigate your way out of the confusing forest. You could say that it is your GPS to almost everything in life. This is just another way to explain what education. Bertrand Russell calls education an obstacle. Like I said before, how can he call education an obstacle when education is meant to help us? Some people think that education is just another thing that was made up to control us. And you might think that with this type of “restriction”, as some people call it, you wouldn’t be able to have freedom of thought. How is it then that I am able to write a poetry book and get an education at the same time? How is it then that I am able to choose not to do the work that they give us to do for homework or class work? How is it then that if education is as strong as it is that procrastination sometimes overpowers us? It is because we still have our freedom of thought. We are still able to choose what we do. We are still able to do other things than just education. But, we cannot do the things we love to do without some type of education. For example, I love to write poetry. In fact I am working on filling up a book with poetry and after that I am going to try and get it published. Anyways, I love to write poetry, but I would not be able to write the kind of poetry I write today, if I had not learned how to write, or read back when I was younger. So, Bertrand Russell’s quote, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” Is wrong in my point of view. And that is the end.
--Jared Camacho Period 4
2008-10-03 11:55:46 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell’s quote, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought,” in my opinion it is believed that he had an issue with education and the way it was being thought in schools. I disagree with his comment due to the fact that Mr. Russell was home schooled throughout his life until he attend college. The education and learning experience he received at home must have had an impact on him when going away to a public school. He was not brought up like many other kids were by attending a public school but instead he was being thought by people such as governesses and tutors whatever the studies he received by them was not likely the same as the people he attended college with. Yes it is true education that makes us intelligent and more open minded, but not everybody is faced with it because many people don’t receive the right education. Bertrand Russell had also quoted that, “Men are born ignorant not stupid, they are made stupid by education.” If this is the case why would he state one quote and try to contradict himself in stating that people are stupid by being educated. Mr. Russell had his own opinions and free thoughts and maybe this is why he was a philosopher, studied hard, and traveled the world to find out how education brought up people and how they lived their lives.
Based on this “education” it is learned from the day we are born, it is how are parents bring us up and teaches us from right or wrong. Before I started attending pre-k I already knew how to say the alphabet and how to read small words not because I was forced, but because my parents were guiding me towards the right path. Parents can give advice and lead them correctly but it is up to one self to take in what was thought to them and try to educate others it is basically in their own hands. The education system now is more visualized and opened minded than it was back on Mr. Russell’s time. This is because back then education was taught and people would give in quickly (in my belief) in whatever teachers or educators would say. For example in the year 1900 people thought the world was coming to an end and some were committing suicide same thing happened when the market crashed people were actually killing themselves because they saw no way out. These people might have been raised the proper way but eventually education did not play a role in their lives if so they wouldn’t have done the things they did by hurting themselves and their loved ones. They took in the words of others if they were educated properly they would have known that there is a resolution for everything instead of death. Schools now at days are teaching kids to be more aware, for us to take our education and be successful. Students that continue their education after high school tend to be successful in life than those that don’t. If the students learn something then the teachers are successful, but if they don’t then it’s a failure for them. I believe in the quote, “Any child who can spend an hour or two a day, or more if he wants, with adults that he likes, who are interested in the world and like to talk about it, will on most days learn far more from their talk than he would learn in a week of school."~John Holt

-Giovanni Flores 6th period
2008-10-03 12:29:58 GMT
Author:Anonymous
In Bertrand Russell’s quote, “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought,” in my opinion it is believed that he had an issue with education and the way it was being thought in schools. I disagree with his comment due to the fact that Mr. Russell was home schooled throughout his life until he attend college. The education and learning experience he received at home must have had an impact on him when going away to a public school. He was not brought up like many other kids were by attending a public school but instead he was being thought by people such as governesses and tutors whatever the studies he received by them was not likely the same as the people he attended college with. Yes it is true education that makes us intelligent and more open minded, but not everybody is faced with it because many people don’t receive the right education. Bertrand Russell had also quoted that, “Men are born ignorant not stupid, they are made stupid by education.” If this is the case why would he state one quote and try to contradict himself in stating that people are stupid by being educated. Mr. Russell had his own opinions and free thoughts and maybe this is why he was a philosopher, studied hard, and traveled the world to find out how education brought up people and how they lived their lives.
Based on this “education” it is learned from the day we are born, it is how are parents bring us up and teaches us from right or wrong. Before I started attending pre-k I already knew how to say the alphabet and how to read small words not because I was forced, but because my parents were guiding me towards the right path. Parents can give advice and lead them correctly but it is up to one self to take in what was thought to them and try to educate others it is basically in their own hands. The education system now is more visualized and opened minded than it was back on Mr. Russell’s time. This is because back then education was taught and people would give in quickly (in my belief) in whatever teachers or educators would say. For example in the year 1900 people thought the world was coming to an end and some were committing suicide same thing happened when the market crashed people were actually killing themselves because they saw no way out. These people might have been raised the proper way but eventually education did not play a role in their lives if so they wouldn’t have done the things they did by hurting themselves and their loved ones. They took in the words of others if they were educated properly they would have known that there is a resolution for everything instead of death. Schools now at days are teaching kids to be more aware, for us to take our education and be successful. Students that continue their education after high school tend to be successful in life than those that don’t. If the students learn something then the teachers are successful, but if they don’t then it’s a failure for them. I believe in the quote, “Any child who can spend an hour or two a day, or more if he wants, with adults that he likes, who are interested in the world and like to talk about it, will on most days learn far more from their talk than he would learn in a week of school."~John Holt

-Giovanni Flores 6th period
2008-10-03 12:30:05 GMT
Author:Anonymous
“We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief factors obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” When I first read this quote I just thought that Bertrand Russell was crazy and didn’t know what he was was thinking about. After doing some research on Bertrand Russell, I discovered that he was born and raised in Wales, England. He also was a mathematician and a philosopher. Then it started to dawn on me that I was an ideal demonstration of what this quote being said. I am a complete opposite of Russell himself and I had a complete closed mind to his quote after being taught to never challenge the way the school system works.
With that being said, he wrote the quote “We are faced with the paradoxical fact that education has become one of the chief obstacles to intelligence and freedom of thought.” due to the fact that in his time (1872-1970) the education systems were not adequate.
They were and still are inadequate in many different ways, with the first one being the lack of individuality. Students were made to believe that there is distinctly one right answer to every question. This just made the students unable to one, think outside the box and two, create a explanation for the answers. Whenever the students are asked to explain the answer, most of the responses that the teacher receives is an “I don’t know, isn’t it the right answer?”
Of course when I was in grade school this was the greatest thing ever, at that time it was because you didn’t have to think much. Now, as a freshmen in Mrs. Broussard’s pre-ap English class I wish my other teachers would have made me work just half as much as she already is. I feel like the public school system did not readily prepare me for this course. Mrs. Broussard asks us simple questions, or at least they seem to be, and many children can answer and explain why they think what think but very little are able to back up their statements.
In his quote he goes as far as stating that education is an obstacle in intelligence and freedom. How could this be possible? All of these years and even still today, teachers along with society, governments, and parents are blinding us from the truth and making us believe that education is a building block to pure intelligence.
Granted, the definitions of true intelligence all differ but, the most wide spread and well known was is thought to be someone who has a high GPA or maybe someone who has 3 masters degrees. On the other hand I feel that your intelligence has many components. What are three masters degrees without a tad bit of common sense? Or vice-versa, what is a ton of common sense without at least a college degree? Not much.
I feel that it is ridiculous for the innocent children to be blinded in this harsh way. Sadly there is not much that anyone can truly do about it. The teachers aren’t going to change their ways anytime soon and the same holds true with the government.
One last topic that I want to bring up is advanced courses. Here again the same holds true, children are fooled by the statements of well trusted adults. In “advanced courses” teachers are supposed to teach you on a higher level than you actually are. They are supposed to prepare you to get prepared for the other higher level thinking courses and also as you become an upperclassmen in high school they are even supposed to go as far as preparing you for college level exams. Still, most teachers slack off or get lazy at some point in the school year and start teaching at an on level pace. Then, when you do get a teacher that actually wants to teach you something, you rarely know what to do. In some cases, the child actually could have a 4.0 in all of their college courses that they take in high school, but when it comes to taking the exam for the credit, you can’t get it. This is not fair to the students that want to learn and can’t due to lack of teaching.
Whether you are the teacher or the parent this may happen
--Tayler nickell pd.6
2008-10-03 12:53:30 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Bertrand Russell is saying that the educational system in which we are a part of is taking away our freedom of thought. He believes it takes away from our imagination, individuality, and individual thought process. All students do not believe the same thing, think the same way, or learn the same way. In our educational system we are told to believe what our teachers tell us without a second thought. He also thinks that our intelligence is compromised by being a part of this educational system, in which we are conformed and not able to think “outside of the box”.

I seem to wonder if Russell would better like the education when women did not have the ability to learn, or when it cost a fortune in order to attend a school. At that time, people must have been free to think and gain intelligence on their own accord.

To be frank, I do not agree with his belief or his statement. I do not think that the education system of our country has disabled us, the students, from a free thinking process. I also do not think that it is an obstacle or a barrier from our intelligence. Education is an essential key to the thinking process and an important part of intelligence. Students are not all subject to do the same thing, or think the same way. There are different levels of learning, such as TAG, Pre AP, AP, Humanities, and regular Ed students. There are also different ways that teaches teach. There are also different ways that students learn. Some are visual learners, some are hands on learners, and others are audio learners. Teachers have found ways to change their curriculums in order to suit the needs of the different students in which they teach.

--Ayanna Edwards 3rd Period
2008-10-03 12:58:22 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Whether you are the teacher or the parent this may happen to you. In many cases children and parents both believe that their child is ready to achieve until they actually take that exam. Also there is no reason for the teacher to slack or not give the child the building blocks of learning that are so desperately needed for they rest of you, your child, or even a family member to survive.

(last paragraph of the blog, it got cut off)

--Tayler nickell pd.6
2008-10-03 12:58:53 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Whether you are the teacher or the parent this may happen to you. In many cases children and parents both believe that their child is ready to achieve until they actually take that exam. Also there is no reason for the teacher to slack or not give the child the building blocks of learning that are so desperately needed for they rest of you, your child, or even a family member to survive.

(last paragraph of the blog, it got cut off)

--Tayler nickell pd.6
2008-10-03 13:00:18 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Okay, first off, let me say that I am going to argue that both writers are wrong in my opinion, although both have some good points. And in the directions, it said not to agree with both unless you have gotten an A on a blog, but you never said we couldn’t disagree with both.J.
(I BEAT THE MAN JUST THEN, I FOUND THE DOGGY DOOR MS. B)






I don’t agree with either of the men. Both Joe Wood in “Who Says A White Band can’t Play Rap?”, and Langston Hughes in “The Negro Artist and the Racial Mountain” explained their point well, but seemed to have missed the point.
In my opinion, Hughes took the comment made by the young poet the wrong way. When I first read up to that part, I was surprised to see the realization he came to. To me, it seemed like the poet was portraying the idea that he wanted to be seen as just a poet and didn’t want to be judged or categorized by his skin color. I can understand where he is coming from. Langston took this as a downgrade to the black society. Throughout his paper, he talked about various aspects of different “black” lives. In this, he insinuated that the Negro who embraces his heritage has a better chance of making even more work. One thing he said was that “They furnish a wealth of colorful, distinctive material for any artist because they still hold their own individuality in the face of American standardizations.” As soon as the poet said that he didn’t want to be known as a “Negro poet”, he jumped straight to the black factor. Hughes also gives off the vibe that being, acting, or even liking “white” things are bad. He wants African Americans to write about “black” lives or “black” things. But I have to ask myself, who labeled these things and places to be considered “black”. I don’t agree with Langston Hughes for the simple fact that he, himself, stereotyped the poet, the black community, and the people in it.
Joe Wood in “Who Says a White Band Can’t Play Rap?” talked a lot about stereotyping. One thing he said was, “Who the fuck are you Kamron?” and “What does blackness mean today, anyways?”. Joe made these questions after the boy said,” Blackness is a state of mind. I know a lot of African Americans wouldn’t consider black”. Joe Woods seems like he doesn’t understand where the lines are drawn between black and white, yet he also, like Langston Hughes, stereotyped. Langston Hughes did so in an obvious form, but I think that Joe Woods stereotyped subconsciously. When the paper first started, he wrote, “The driveway was short. Too short. I stepped out the car and took a good look at the house and thought, damn, this house is too small for the (white) king of Rock and Roll”. Immediately, I thought, why is it such a big deal that the house is small? And why does it matter that he was the white King of Rock and Roll? He even went a step forward to say, “Graceland wasn’t a Big House. Elvis hadn’t even made a good show of it. My sensibilities as a (black) consumer were definitely offended.” I was offended by this comment. Why does it have to be fancy? And why did he have to add the extra “(black)” part? Joe also showed resentment to Elvis in the whole time he talked about him. I think that this was due to the fact that he was a white man playing “black” music. Another stereotype.
Both men talked about separate issues, in separate ways, but both Langston Hughes and Joe Wood approached the issues in the wrong way. This is why I don’t agree with either.
--Meia Fuller
2009-02-09 01:32:20 GMT
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